ENOUGH ABOUT THE MESSAGE
Some of us want to argue pedantically, here. Sheesh.
Some of us want to argue pedantically, here. Sheesh.
Is Living Vitness canon or miror universe?
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It was a bloody awful message.
Your parents lied to you.
I found "Remember" where B'Elanna is telepathically seeded with the memories of a holocaust to be much more moving and less abrasive.
Same bloody message.
I'm recalling that in "Renaissance Man" that the doctor took on the appearance of almost everyone, and since he was getting his parameters from the medical database rather than the entertainment database, he would have had these peoples nipples and the most very authentic junk.
In his pursuit of happiness, how on Earth could the Doctor persist in maintain such a limited and superficial façade when he was capable of so much more.
Your parents lied to you.
I found "Remember" where B'Elanna is telepathically seeded with the memories of a holocaust to be much more moving and less abrasive.
Same bloody message.
I'm recalling that in "Renaissance Man" that the doctor took on the appearance of almost everyone, and since he was getting his parameters from the medical database rather than the entertainment database, he would have had these peoples nipples and the most very authentic junk.
In his pursuit of happiness, how on Earth could the Doctor persist in maintain such a limited and superficial façade when he was capable of so much more.
Its all about the back up thing! Without the back up thing, there is no episode and the writers, up to the point, made it clear there was no back up for the EMH and no way to for the crew to make one!
Do we know WHEN the Doctor's backup module was stolen? Since the story itself is set hundreds of years in the future, the module could have been stolen not in the present day of Voyager, Season 4, but later in Voyager's journey when a backup was possible -- possibly even during the 16+ years that produced Admiral Janeway and Dead Tuvok.
Which raises the question: If there are 285,000 universes, multiple realities (which I would argue are just two different terms for the same thing), whatever you want to call them, and we say seven Federations in that episode, what's to say that there isn't more than one Terran Empire? Several thousand universes could exist where the Empire did not fall.
When the Doctor closes his mouth, he doesn't have any teeth. When he opens his mouth, he does. Simply.
It would be the same when, if, he removed some or all of his clothing. The majority of the time, what appears to be his uniform is actual his "skin."
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concerning the OP, there's this.
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Been awhile since I watched the episode, so I'm not sure if its covered in dialogue, but goin' by the screencaps at TrekCore, it doesn't take place durin' Tom Paris's time as an ensign (he has lieutenant pips on his collar in the Doctor's corrected version of history).
And that there was a back up module that could be picked up and moved around just makes everyone in the crew look like fuckin' morons.
Been awhile since I watched the episode, so I'm not sure if its covered in dialogue, but goin' by the screencaps at TrekCore, it doesn't take place durin' Tom Paris's time as an ensign (he has lieutenant pips on his collar in the Doctor's corrected version of history).
And that there was a back up module that could be picked up and moved around just makes everyone in the crew look like fuckin' morons.
The scene between Janeway and Seven in spacedock never happened though, the Relativity crew sent Janeway back in time to stop Braxton from causing all those problems in the first place. So that Janeway and Seven never met in space dock, never met in the corridor during that battle with the Kazon, and so Seven never met herself during the ping pong tournament. All of that was reset.
I thought it was more about branching numerous timelines in that story since it can't have been kosher to erase their own births and push their futures off kilter by meddling with their own past. I mean for a terrorist sure, fixing terrorism , why not but it's a little anoraxy for the time-beat-cops to take on that sort of responsibility for themselves without oversight, unless the entire federation in the future is temporally shielded and it doesn't matter what they do to the past.
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The holo-emitters in that Museum were from 700 years in the future, for all we know their advanced holo-tech is partially what allowed the backup to work so well. In the present day of VOY their existing tech may not have supported whatever backups they made so they were useless.
It's all irrelevant because it was such a good story, like how flaws in episodes like BOBW or WOK get glossed over because the overall story was good.
Assholes boarded Voyager stole a bunch of technology and then (*&^ed off with what they could carry on their backs.
(Okay so they could have transporter stored stuff even from a distance like in Concerning Flight.)
But it was a smash and grab, and they wouldn't have taken anything too cumbersome, because they held Voyager for all of what 5 minutes.
(Okay so they could have transporter stored stuff even from a distance like in Concerning Flight.)
But it was a smash and grab, and they wouldn't have taken anything too cumbersome, because they held Voyager for all of what 5 minutes.
It was a little black box that was stolen from Voyager and found 700 years later & worked on. The curator at the holomuseum whatever even said he was workin' on it in the recreation of the ship's engine room because of the tools available in the recreation - they were from the same ship & same era!
"Oh, no! We might lose the Doctor! Except we won't 'cause there's this thing that totally has real time updates of his knowledge & personality that is so unsecured alien thieves can find it!"
Fuckin' morons....
There are infinite universes, one for every possible outcome of every event anywhere ever.
For a TNG-era Terran Empire, read Diane Duane's excellent Dark Mirror.
Unfortunately no.
(Sometimes)
A number writers and episodes ascribe to the Single Universe Theory.
And there's not proof that the (or if there are many or infinite Mirror Universes) Mirror universe was created beside the regular Universe with the big bang.
Inconsistency.
Sad, eh?
(Sometimes)
A number writers and episodes ascribe to the Single Universe Theory.
And there's not proof that the (or if there are many or infinite Mirror Universes) Mirror universe was created beside the regular Universe with the big bang.
Inconsistency.
Sad, eh?
So the Kyrian incident occurred either in 2374, or early in 2375, or in 2377, or in 2378, or possibly as Smellincoffee suggested.
The obvious way to tell when the episode "really" took place is by the study of Janeway's hair.
How long was it from the last time they said "Oh no, we can't back up the Doctor," and the end of the series? The crew of the Voyager were constantly figuring how to modify their existing systems, creating new stuff and also running across alien technology that would get incorporated into the ship.
They didn't arrive in the Delta Quadrant with a slip-stream drive, but at one point they did have one.
Things did happen that didn't make it into episodes, we didn't get an separate episode where that girl died, only an episode where she came back looking like an alien. We didn't see a episode where the crew create a backup module for the EMH.
We only know that at some point they did.
They didn't arrive in the Delta Quadrant with a slip-stream drive, but at one point they did have one.
Things did happen that didn't make it into episodes, we didn't get an separate episode where that girl died, only an episode where she came back looking like an alien. We didn't see a episode where the crew create a backup module for the EMH.
We only know that at some point they did.
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There were episodes in the sixth & seventh seasons dealin' with the threat of the Doctor's program bein' lost.
http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=5140561&postcount=17
There were episodes in the sixth & seventh seasons dealin' with the threat of the Doctor's program bein' lost.
http://trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=5140561&postcount=17
Living Witness is Canon. So are all Mirror Universe episodes. Living Witness isn't set in the Mirror Universe though.
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