Somebody beat you to it.as rich she might become, but not even Jesus will ever be as popular as the Fab Four! (and before I get excommunicated: this was merely a reference to a quote by John Lennon, not an anti-religious statement)

Somebody beat you to it.as rich she might become, but not even Jesus will ever be as popular as the Fab Four! (and before I get excommunicated: this was merely a reference to a quote by John Lennon, not an anti-religious statement)
The thing that makes me suspect it will beat Oasis, perhaps even Sgt. Pepper at no.2 with 4.8 million, is that Oasis took twice as long to sell 3 million copies as 21 has.
Maybe it will top out soon, but it's not showing any sign of it yet.
People were saying she'd fizzle out pretty much from the day she came onto the scene. She's still here and still popular. How long does it take before she can legitimately not be a "fad"? I'm sure those who hate her will continue to move the goalposts just so she can never be considered "legitimately" popular.![]()
Hmm...
You do not like Lady Gaga or the Beatles. You consider her music an insult to music in general. That means there is music you like. What you are doing is comparing the music you don't like, which is hers, to the music you do like. You like her music less than you like the Beatles, and you do not like the Beatles. Whether you like the Beatles or not makes no difference to this equation. You are making a comparison of your likes and dislikes, and calling them fact. You can run around the meaning all you want, but you are trying to substitute your musical opinions as fact.
Reading comprehension. I never called her music an insult to music. I said THIS QUESTION is an insult to music. You assumed the rest.
Ah, I see. So we need to find out what the definition of 'is' is. The question is an insult to music, but you didn't say her music was an insult to music. That's a mighty fine hair you've chosen to split.
Reading comprehension. I never called her music an insult to music. I said THIS QUESTION is an insult to music. You assumed the rest.
Ah, I see. So we need to find out what the definition of 'is' is. The question is an insult to music, but you didn't say her music was an insult to music. That's a mighty fine hair you've chosen to split.
I explicitly said "this question". And the question makes no reference to their music. The question is about how big there are. Maybe I should have said "music history" instead of "music" to make it clear to people who are missing the obviousness of my point, but there is no ambiguity here.
You're the one splitting hairs to make up an argument against me. As many others have agreed with me that comparing her to The Beatles is a no contest, maybe you should address the thread topic and let up on this little personal dispute. Or have I accidentally created another semantics argument in this post for you to focus on instead?
You're not even trying to separate celebrity from skill, are you?
People were saying she'd fizzle out pretty much from the day she came onto the scene. She's still here and still popular. How long does it take before she can legitimately not be a "fad"? I'm sure those who hate her will continue to move the goalposts just so she can never be considered "legitimately" popular.![]()
Well, I can't speak for those who 'hate' her, because I don't love her or hate her, one way or the other. I don't really care for that genre of music...and so really haven't spent a lot of time listening to her. 'Indifference' is really the term that best categorizes my feelings about Gaga.
I think that part of the problem here is that you guys who seem to really believe she has a shot at the Beatles are construing our disagreement with that assessment as a) evidence of our 'hatred' of her (not true - at least in my case) and b) some sort of imagined claim that we see her as not 'legitimately popular'.
But I don't even know what that means. Because the woman has sold, like, a bazillion records. Of course she is 'legitimately popular'.
And no - our disagreement that she is not as big as the Beatles does NOT mean we 'hate' her and are involved in some vast conspiracy to 'move the goalposts', just so she can never achieve greatness. Clearly, you guys are under the mistaken impression that we actually care enough to spend countless hours plotting ways to thwart Lady Gaga's Plan For World Domination or something. And that just isn't true. Some of us (myself included) don't give a shit one way or the other about Lady Gaga. If she's popular, fine. Doesn't effect me or my listening habits one way or the other, so I couldn't possibly care less. And I certainly don't care enough to spend time plotting ways to 'move goalposts', just so Lady Gaga can't pass the test.![]()
Some of us in this thread are actually not even here for the Lady Gaga element, but were drawn in by the Beatles name - we are here because of the comparison to the Beatles. And what we see as the absurdity of comparing ANYONE to the Beatles. Not just Gaga...but anyone.
Now...as for when she moves from the fad column into the legend column. Well, I've already given my opinion. If she still has fans following her around the country and flocking to her shows a decade or two after the massive PR buzz machine stops buzzing, we can start talking about the potential for legend. But those are the same standards I apply to ANY band - not just Gaga. I apply to them to my own most beloved bands as well. The goalposts are firmly planted, and will not be 'moved' for Gaga.![]()
I listen to Lady Gaga in ... bar mitzvahs etc.
I've spent a lot of my free time on weekends over the last month looking for a venue for a celebration next year. So I've dropped in on quite a few restaurants and listened to a lot of DJs. You better bet that Gaga and Katy Perry are big with the coming-of-age crowd.
Ke$ha does pretty good for herself, too.
I've spent a lot of my free time on weekends over the last month looking for a venue for a celebration next year. So I've dropped in on quite a few restaurants and listened to a lot of DJs. You better bet that Gaga and Katy Perry are big with the coming-of-age crowd.
Ke$ha does pretty good for herself, too.
I love them all. I'm not ashamed to admit I have no taste.
Pop music is what it is. Same with country. There's no genre or musical tradition that I've heard that I don't like some of.
...although I'm always wary of anyone who says they like a bit of everything.
...although I'm always wary of anyone who says they like a bit of everything.
I'm not surprised.
Polka gets on my nerves pretty quickly, but it's fun.
Well, I guess it's generally hard for us that were born too late to experience the whole Beatlemania thing first-hand to fully grasp its significancePersonally I've never understood what the big fuss was about The Beatles, but they've obviously had a long lasting cultural impact.
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