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Is Jacob a Werewolf?

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Watched The Monster Squad a few weeks ago...that version of Dracula could turn into a bat.

And I still call bullshit on Eric sayin', "I have to fly.", takin' off like a firecracker is up his ass, and, next thing ya know, he's outside the Queen's house fixin' his hair.
 
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Watched The Monster Squad a few weeks ago...that version of Dracula could turn into a bat.

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As far as I know, the bat thing was Bram Stoker's idea. It was a staple in the old Universal DRACULA movies (which MONSTER SQUAD was referencing), but the later Hammer films mostly avoided bat-transformations, as did Anne Rice, Stephen King, Buffy, and nearly every modern vampire story.

I can't remember if Barnabas Collins could turn into a bat or not.
 
The more important question being, will a Silver bullet kill him anyway?

By Dresden rules, no. Jacob appears to be closest to the mainline werewolves in that series, who turn into wolves via magic. They're completely canine anatomically during the transformation, but keep their human minds. As such, they can be killed by any violence that would be sufficient to kill a regular wolf. To be fair, though, the unnatural size of the Twilight wolves suggests his tribe may be Hexenwolves, which are noticably larger and more powerful than normal wolves. However, their transformation comes from the use of a magical talisman, and the rush that accompanies it is addictive and corrupting, so that counts against that theory.

He's obviously not a Lycanthrope, since he actually transforms, and that category only has a psycological and spiritual wolfness. I suppose his tribe could be Loup-garous, which are the result of a curse that may be hereditary, if the caster so chooses, but they only transform during the full moon, and go into a dangerous, murderous rage, losing their minds during the transformation. That's the one you need a weapon of (inherited) silver to kill. But the only thing counting for that is what danellis posted about the vampires thinking Jacobs condition was necessarily inherited biologically, and, frankly, how the hell would they know?
 
The Dresden Files episode concerning Werewolves had them killed rather easily or at least maimed by using large silver nails/spikes. In the same way a Pentacle caused Bianca (Red Court Vampire) damage as a Crucifix would.
 
I haven't read them even though one of my friends is obsessive about them. I've only watched the show, but I know it simplified and changed quite a bit of the material.
 
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Watched The Monster Squad a few weeks ago...that version of Dracula could turn into a bat.

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As far as I know, the bat thing was Bram Stoker's idea. It was a staple in the old Universal DRACULA movies (which MONSTER SQUAD was referencing), but the later Hammer films mostly avoided bat-transformations, as did Anne Rice, Stephen King, Buffy, and nearly every modern vampire story.

I can't remember if Barnabas Collins could turn into a bat or not.

Just remember to yell out "Abracadabra!" if you ever see a vampire holding a heavy object over its head.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/1062654/
 
The more important question being, will a Silver bullet kill him anyway?

By Dresden rules, no. ...

But the only thing counting for that is what danellis posted about the vampires thinking Jacobs condition was necessarily inherited biologically, and, frankly, how the hell would they know?

Sorry, Dresden rules?

It's made fairly clear in the books that "werewolfism" is inherited.

Jacob says in the first books (before he himself turns) that one of the (Indian) tribe's creation stories is that they're descended from wolves.

How the vampires know is not hinted at in the books, although the Cullens are stated as having stayed and departed Forks a number of times over the centuries, so presumably there's been contact before Eclipse.

In the same passage Jacob suggests that ther ewas contact between the wolves and vampires before the Cullens "There are stories of the cold ones as old as the wolf legends, and some much more recent."

dJE
 
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Watched The Monster Squad a few weeks ago...that version of Dracula could turn into a bat.

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As far as I know, the bat thing was Bram Stoker's idea. It was a staple in the old Universal DRACULA movies (which MONSTER SQUAD was referencing), but the later Hammer films mostly avoided bat-transformations, as did Anne Rice, Stephen King, Buffy, and nearly every modern vampire story.

At least according to Coppola's vision, Dracula was essentially an evil version of Manimal.
 
The more important question being, will a Silver bullet kill him anyway?

By Dresden rules, no. ...

But the only thing counting for that is what danellis posted about the vampires thinking Jacobs condition was necessarily inherited biologically, and, frankly, how the hell would they know?

Sorry, Dresden rules?

The Dresden Files, a series of urban fantasy novels about a wizard Private Eye who works in Chicago. I recommend them heartily.

It's made fairly clear in the books that "werewolfism" is inherited.

Jacob says in the first books (before he himself turns) that one of the (Indian) tribe's creation stories is that they're descended from wolves.

Ah, but inherited like my pretty brown eyes, or inherited like the good silver? All I know of the specifics are what made it into the two movies, and then only the stuff that was related in the Agony Booth Recaps. It doesn't go into detail about the exact mechanisms of werewolfism, and how much effort was actually required to change, how one was turned, and so on. What little was there was consistent with the vanilla werewolves in the Dresden books, assuming Jacob's tribe knew the spell to transform into a wolf, and passed it down by tradition from generation to generation.

I'm also starting to realize how many levels of wrong I'm committing by trying to fanwank Twilight and The Dresden Files into the same universe. Should I go further into the depths and speculate on whether the Cullens are White Court, Black Court, or Red Court vampires? They don't seem anywhere near asian enough to be the rarely-heard-of Jade Court, so at least that one is out, though just off the top of my head, I can see evidence for all of the other three.

(Also, I just realized I completely misread Chemahkuu's post as asking if a silver bullet would be required to kill him. The answer would've been a lot shorter if I'd gotten it right, as even in the cases where silver isn't required for a werewolf, it'll still kill one by virtue of being a frickin' bullet.)
 
They outright state that Jacob and his pack aren't werewolves in the books, they're shapeshifters who take the form of wolves, it's just they assume they're werewolves.
 
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