As you know the world is very nasty and cruel place. People kill each other just because of nonsense reasons or countries declare war just to get much more lands. My question is that is humanity able to get rid of them and bring peace to world? Shortly im asking that can we reach the level of civilization in Star Trek TNG? For me it is impossible and we always have to live this life
Is it possible?
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We may never reach a level of society equal to what is seen in Star Trek, but it serves as a possible goal to reach for.
I tend to fall into the camp that thinks we won't unite as a people until there's an obstacle where we have to join together in order to surpass it.
I tend to fall into the camp that thinks we won't unite as a people until there's an obstacle where we have to join together in order to surpass it.
like first contact?
When I was a kid, I bought into the whole "Star Trek future" thing completely. But now that I've lived more, and seen more of the world and people, I don't think it's possible anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I still love Star Trek as much as I ever did, but now I know it for what it is: a fun sci-fi franchise.
Which is all it ever was anyhow.
Don't get me wrong, I still love Star Trek as much as I ever did, but now I know it for what it is: a fun sci-fi franchise.
Which is all it ever was anyhow.
No, I'm thinking more along the lines of a plague or worldwide drought or the hypothetical meteorite wiping out an entire land mass. Something like that. First contact with an alien race is still fantasyland.
I am convinced that this universe is the MU seen in Star Trek, and that the universe depicted in the majority of the series is an alternate reality.
--Sran
--Sran
Well the Earth of Star Trek may be "perfect", but the galaxy still seems have problems. War, hatred, crime and greed. In Star Trek the canvas is just broader than in the modern day. Earth is that nice neighborhood, in that nice city in a first world country.
Sure, it's possible. Just as soon as your prospects in life have nothing to do with your race, gender, nationality, or anything else beyond your control. So, yeah, a long way off.
You know, I like ST and find it very entertaining but I seriously doubt that there are aliens out there, waiting for us to reach a technological level, before they make contact. I'll believe that under a layer of dust the moon is really made out of cheese before I believe that.
I disagree with Star Trek's contention that what it takes to unify the planet in a utopian manner is total devastation of a nuclear war. Scarce resources are the most basic cause of conflict.
If we reach a world without war and without persecution, it will be because have lost their incentives to go to war. If every person knows the risk of hurting another person outweighs the relative benefits.
If we reach a world without war and without persecution, it will be because have lost their incentives to go to war. If every person knows the risk of hurting another person outweighs the relative benefits.
To quote Green Day: television dreams of tomorrow..... That´s what it is. A dream. Some aspects are more realistic, others just wishful thinking.
I like it when the discuss the shortcomings of the past in ST. The pollution of the atmosphere in time travel episodes for instance.
I like it when the discuss the shortcomings of the past in ST. The pollution of the atmosphere in time travel episodes for instance.
Aw, come on. Humans control an interstellar hegemony for a little over a century without making a major screwup that collapses it sooner?
Yes, it's possible for all of humanity to live on a unified earth in complete peace with one another and with nature. Along with that peace, mankind will also have perfect health, food, clothing and shelter for everyone, no economic greed or oppression and unlimited time to explore the universe and grow to our full human potential.
However, it's not going to happen the way Star Trek has depicted it. A cause of mankind's massive problems stem from a bad heart condition. Greed and selfishness corrupt the human heart. The desire for power and control ultimately ruin those in charge. Even good leaders cannot overcome these basic traits or, if they can, their lives are just too short to guarantee any lasting, permanent change in life. Oh, sure, we've come along way in many areas of life but, ultimately, humans are still dealing with hatred, bigotry and lust for power that have marked every civilization. As advanced as science and knowledge has become, we still deal with homelessness, the poor, warfare, crime, disease and death.
For humanity to overcome these disastrous traits, the whole earth needs to be unified in thought and purpose. As long as humanity remains divided on the best way to live, there will never be any lasting peace. In order for that unity to be achieved, all of humanity will have to agree on what the best life really is. I don't mean the parts of life based upon our personal preferences, but the part of life based upon values, morals, principles and life's overall purpose and meaning.
Not everyone will agree with this and it won't be easy. Only with the help of an outside source, a higher power, a superior authority that everyone can agree upon will such a change take place.
However, it's not going to happen the way Star Trek has depicted it. A cause of mankind's massive problems stem from a bad heart condition. Greed and selfishness corrupt the human heart. The desire for power and control ultimately ruin those in charge. Even good leaders cannot overcome these basic traits or, if they can, their lives are just too short to guarantee any lasting, permanent change in life. Oh, sure, we've come along way in many areas of life but, ultimately, humans are still dealing with hatred, bigotry and lust for power that have marked every civilization. As advanced as science and knowledge has become, we still deal with homelessness, the poor, warfare, crime, disease and death.
For humanity to overcome these disastrous traits, the whole earth needs to be unified in thought and purpose. As long as humanity remains divided on the best way to live, there will never be any lasting peace. In order for that unity to be achieved, all of humanity will have to agree on what the best life really is. I don't mean the parts of life based upon our personal preferences, but the part of life based upon values, morals, principles and life's overall purpose and meaning.
Not everyone will agree with this and it won't be easy. Only with the help of an outside source, a higher power, a superior authority that everyone can agree upon will such a change take place.
This.
I disagree. If there's going to be lasting peace it's through universal pluralism and mutual respect, not through a single unifying philosophy that shames deviance.
Of course the other thing that could unite the world is a common threat. So come on aliens, attack us! Force us to unify against you!
When material need is eliminated
When mankind develops a clean, cheap source of energy
When the acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives
When the goal is to improve yourself...
When mankind develops a clean, cheap source of energy
When the acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives
When the goal is to improve yourself...
agreed..it is when we will be at our best.
That said, the line in "Contact" really resonated with me, and still does; the one Carl Sagan created and David Morse's Alien Avatar character delivers:
“You're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other.”
Carl Sagan, "Contact"
Except reality has proven pretty conclusively that forcing religion on people is more likely to cause wars than end them.
