Is it just me...
- Thread starter Citizen Cook
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As someone watching TOS from 1969 on (I was 6) - ABSOLUTELY NOT.
And it's not that I don't like the 1701 Refit from TMP; it has its own charm; I still to this day really love the original designs (there were two) of the classic 1701.
Also while to don''t mind the remastered TOS in general, I for one will never understand the need to try and modernize existing old episodes or films in general (and I'm not talking restoration which I support, but actual shot changes and other things done to appeal to current audiences.)
Never, never, never.
Yes. The TMP ship doesn't fit in with the TOS aesthetic.
I like the movie version, too, but it works best in the movies.
Vomit springs eternal at the thought of that....
...but I would not be surprised if it was attempted for some "enhanced anniversary edition" at some point in the future.
If it were done, it would make the TMP flyby sequence...already trying for many viewers...completely pointless.
Rather that than the explanation they came up with in Enterprise
I never thought the change in appearance of the Klingons needed addressing on the spin offs since they all had the ridges throughout each series. It was in the original Trek movies an explanation was needed but when it wasn't provided after 4 movies it just didn't seem that important anymore. I preferred the way DS9 dealt with the issue as an in-joke in the Trials And Tribbleations episode. It acknowledged the different appearance of the Klingons without delving into it since any explanation would be contrived anyway which we saw in Enterprise later on.
OTOH, by openly acknowledging the difference for the first time onscreen, DS9 took the "They always looked like that, they just weren't able to show it in TOS" option off the table, thus establishing that there had to be an in-universe explanation.
^While that's true, I think Terok Nor's point was that if they HAD to explain the differences, at least it was done in a humorous fashion instead of some convoluted technobabble way. I think how DS9 handled it was perfect. And the need for the "actual" explanation in ENT now makes little sense in the context of DS9. Being a doctor, there's no way Bashir wouldn't have known the circumstances as presented in ENT. But in T&T he's just as clueless as the rest of them.
Exactly. After all those years of not explaining how the Klingons looked different in TOS it could only ever be treated as an in-joke. DS9 pitched the "explanation" just right and gave it the brush off it deserved after almost 20 years of Klingons with ridges being the only ones we saw. It was up to TOS movies to explain it but since they didn't it had no effect on the spin offs that followed. The Enterprise storyline was pure fan service. Did that many people really need an in universe explanation after all that time? I'd point to the smooth head vs. ridge headed Klingon episodes of Enterprise as one of the many moments that show jumped the shark.
Galaxy is a big place. Maybe Bashir just never heard of the Augment virus being used on Klingons?
Given Bashir is an augment himself I highly doubt that.
I like what they did in Trials and Tribbleations, build a new Enterprise model and shoot new footage of that. Of course, aspects of the new model were a little jarring, the Aztecing on the hull and things like that, but it was a model, real, tangible, weighty. Of the CGI Ent in TOS-R, 10% was better, 20% was around the same, the rest was worse, and the same for the alien ships. I have no intention of watching TOS R again, and for re-watches, I'll stick to the original episodes, or as close as those Blu-rays get.
If they were going to throw money at remastering and updating the effects, I'd much rather they'd brushed off and refurbished the original shooting model and filmed that, the way it was done originally, rather than go CGI. It probably would have cost 10 times more, especially when it came to building models of the other ships, but it would have looked authentic.
If they were going to throw money at remastering and updating the effects, I'd much rather they'd brushed off and refurbished the original shooting model and filmed that, the way it was done originally, rather than go CGI. It probably would have cost 10 times more, especially when it came to building models of the other ships, but it would have looked authentic.
I really dislike the Enterprise series. Starting with the show's title. Because whenever you talk about Enterprise you have to qualify it with by saying "The prequel series not the ship"
I liked T'Pol though. Nice ears.
I think the next series should have a brand new design not influenced by TOS's design which was iconic for it's time and gave the impression that it was a ship of the imagination as the struts to the nacelles were so very thin, it's a wonder how it held up but I guess the warp drive held it all together and it's florescance should be brought back as well like it's lit up from inside the fiberglass itself plus the interiors being brighter than they should have been.
I think the next ship should be a living creature. I think they should forget about the uniforms and just wear regular street clothes. I think the crew should be made up of mostly aliens, two humans, and a couple of muppets. I think the name of the show should be changed to something like Farscape.
Or you could just call it Star Trek: Enterprise.
One doesn't necessarily equate the other. If Bashir never studied Klingon medicine in any depth, he may have never heard the rumors.
I agree, but even then, I hated how they filmed it as though it was right on top of the station. TOS was comfortable with (and understood the necessity of) ships being many miles apart; I don't know why modern Trek had such trouble with that idea.
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