Is it just me, or is "Living Witness" unsatisfying?

[ALF]

Living Witness was fun!
11:59 was unsatisfying.

Both were equally non-advancing in character progress though. Or maybe I don't recall 11:59 all that well. I remember it instantly went into my "never watch again" list.

 

[Melakon]

I've not watched 11:59 since it first aired. Maybe it would have worked better if the regular cast had played all the roles in the past. Then it would have been more like a stylistic exercise like Evil Voyager.

 

[2takesfrakes]

I like this episode. I love seeing the 'alternate crew', and like others here said it's the nearest we'll ever get to basically Voyager in the Mirror Universe.

But I do think the story as a whole is unsatisfying ...

Am I alone in feeling like this?

Nosir, you are not alone, in this "feeling." I, too, found "Living Witness" to be particularly unsatisfying ...

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

Has anyone (other than myself) noticed the similarities between this episode and Author, Author? The doctor's fictional Voyager and the reconstituted one in this episode are both totally evil. In both, Janeway shoots a man in cold blood. The crew are at each other's throats...

 

[Melakon]

By the time of "Author, Author" the series was winding down and they were recycling ideas shamelessly. The whole holographics rights business is a spin on TNG: The Measure of a Man, with none of its significance.

 

[Athena28]

I found the ending unsatisfying.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Holographic rights was an allegory for civil rights.

A friend of mine insisted that it was about gay rights, but I had to talk him down and explain that it was probably still about Black people.

 

[Lance]

Holographic rights was an allegory for civil rights.

A friend of mine insisted that it was about gay rights, but I had to talk him down and explain that it was probably still about Black people.

Maybe Holographic Rights was an allegory for gay, black people.

Living Witness was fun!
11:59 was unsatisfying.

Both were equally non-advancing in character progress though. Or maybe I don't recall 11:59 all that well. I remember it instantly went into my "never watch again" list.

See, funny thing is I was satisfied with '11:59'. It was at least a relatively consistent story told well, with beginning middle and end all accounted for. My problem with 'Living Witness' is that it feels unfinished, like somebody took the first draft script down to the set and decided to film that.

 

[Kobayshi Maru]

See, funny thing is I was satisfied with '11:59'. It was at least a relatively consistent story told well, with beginning middle and end all accounted for. My problem with 'Living Witness' is that it feels unfinished, like somebody took the first draft script down to the set and decided to film that.

A funny detail about '11:59' is that when we see Shannon (Janeway's ancestor) pose for the family picture at the end of the episode, she says: "Knock it off, Kieran. That's an order. " to one of the kids, with the exact same tone as the one used by Janeway herself when ordering her crew. The problem is that Shannon never was a captain, she was a civilian. Why would she use that expression?

 

[The Wormhole]

See, funny thing is I was satisfied with '11:59'. It was at least a relatively consistent story told well, with beginning middle and end all accounted for. My problem with 'Living Witness' is that it feels unfinished, like somebody took the first draft script down to the set and decided to film that.

A funny detail about '11:59' is that when we see Shannon (Janeway's ancestor) pose for the family picture at the end of the episode, she says: "Knock it off, Kieran. That's an order. " to one of the kids, with the exact same tone as the one used by Janeway herself when ordering her crew. The problem is that Shannon never was a captain, she was a civilian. Why would she use that expression?

Maybe that kid wants to join the military when he grows up, so she talks to him as though he already is a soldier or whatever?

 

[SPCTRE]

the Defiant looked more like a shampoo bottle

 

[Richard Baker]

See, funny thing is I was satisfied with '11:59'. It was at least a relatively consistent story told well, with beginning middle and end all accounted for. My problem with 'Living Witness' is that it feels unfinished, like somebody took the first draft script down to the set and decided to film that.

A funny detail about '11:59' is that when we see Shannon (Janeway's ancestor) pose for the family picture at the end of the episode, she says: "Knock it off, Kieran. That's an order. " to one of the kids, with the exact same tone as the one used by Janeway herself when ordering her crew. The problem is that Shannon never was a captain, she was a civilian. Why would she use that expression?

I have heard mothers say that line before with having no connection to the military- it is just a Mom thing...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Or Shannon was into LARPING?

 

[Nebusj]

A funny detail about '11:59' is that when we see Shannon (Janeway's ancestor) pose for the family picture at the end of the episode, she says: "Knock it off, Kieran. That's an order. " to one of the kids, with the exact same tone as the one used by Janeway herself when ordering her crew. The problem is that Shannon never was a captain, she was a civilian. Why would she use that expression?

Um … because Shannon's a mom?

But not too annoyed a mom, because she didn't use Kieran's middle and last names.

 

[Melakon]

I'd almost swear that Laura Petrie would tell Ritchie to go to bed and that was an order.

(The Dick Van Dyke Show, for those who never heard of Laura Petrie)