Iron Man 3. Jon Favreau speaks about next villain (Spoilers?)

[Hartzilla2007]

I don't know. I think people underestimate the general audiences' tolerance for far-out fantasy elements. Look at the blockbuster success of the PIRATES OF THE CARIBEAN movies, HARRY POTTER, TWILIGHT, CLASH OF THE TITANS,TRANSFORMERS, etc.

If audiences can accept giant alien robots that turn into cars, not to mention sea monsters and teenage werewolves, I think they can handle a magic alien ring or two . . . .

Don't you think a film sets a tone for itself, though? Those movies firmly planted themselves with the fantasy/alien sci-fi tone from the first frame. If that's done, audiences accept that. It's when you start pulling the tone rug out from under the audience that they start to balk a little bit. Favreau has set a very particular tone in his films, and that tone has been an attempt to ground whatever fantastic elements there are in a realistic world. There's only so far you can push that before everything starts to seem different and an audience rejects it.

It's not impossible to change the tone of a film series, but it is difficult. The first series of Batman films had a steady change of tone, and look what happened there.

Except they had Thor's hammer IN THE MOVIE that pretty much affects the tone, or are you telling me Norse Gods are more realistic than alien tech.

 

[T'Baio]

Except they had Thor's hammer IN THE MOVIE that pretty much affects the tone, or are you telling me Norse Gods are more realistic than alien tech.

Yes, you're right. A one second shot of Thor's hammer after the end credits changed the tone of the movie.

Sorry, my bad.

 

[exodus]

Except they had Thor's hammer IN THE MOVIE that pretty much affects the tone, or are you telling me Norse Gods are more realistic than alien tech.

Yes, you're right. A one second shot of Thor's hammer after the end credits changed the tone of the movie.

Sorry, my bad.

 

[Captaindemotion]

From the arcticle, it's still a concern of Farvreau's though.

Favreau, not Farvreau.

 

[exodus]

From the arcticle, it's still a concern of Farvreau's though.

Favreau, not Farvreau.

Why can't it be something easy, like Smith?

I have to look up how to spell his name every time and I still get it wrong.

 

[Noname Given]

I tend to agree with Favreau. In a comic, you can throw in everything but the kitchen sink and nobody will blink, because the audience is predisposed to be very accepting of such sci-fi/fantasy cocktails. The general movie-going audience, not so much. Every fantastical element they add pushes the suspension of disbelief. Throw in aliens and magic, and audiences will start balking.

And yet, they're also doing Thor - I mean come on, that BLOWS this arguement right out of the water. They could have gone wth Ant man instead and founded [n]The Avengers[/b]

 

[Nowhere Man]

I think Favreau is assuming a lot about the audience. The realism is great, but it is a comic book movie for god's sakes. Like I said before, they don't even have to explain the rings or Mandarin's origin. Just have him show up kicking ass like The Joker did inTDK. The audience isn't dumb and there's got to be a way to make it all work. It'll be hard to put Batman together with Superman with the realism Nolan has established,but it can be done.

 

[FordSVT]

Forget villains, I've seen less powerful guys like Spider-Man and even Cap who has no powers at all take him down.

Ummm... while he's not technically "super" human, I don't think "no powers at all" is the most accurate way to describe him. He can run at up to 60 mph, bench press a ton, is immune to most diseases and poisons,beat than normal regenerative powers, has near-superhuman reflexes and senses, and is regarded as one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the MU. He'd certainly be a match for most of the X-Men, for example, and in a straight-up fight would probably kick the shit out of Batman.

Iron Man's one of those characters who's powers (in this case suit) are quite incredible, but who's weakness lies in themselves. When Cap is on his game he's pretty much infallible. Tony Stark... not so much, even when he is.

 

[Hermiod]

^He has 'peak human' abilities. I always use the term 'powers' to describe a superhuman ability.

Cap's something like my third favourite comic book character so don't think I was trying to play his skills down.

 

[Captaindemotion]

From the arcticle, it's still a concern of Farvreau's though.

Favreau, not Farvreau.

Why can't it be something easy, like Smith?

I have to look up how to spell his name every time and I still get it wrong.

If it's any consolation, the guy who wrote Babylon 5 and the guys who made The Matrix get me every time ...

 

[FordSVT]

Favreau, not Farvreau.

Why can't it be something easy, like Smith?

I have to look up how to spell his name every time and I still get it wrong.

If it's any consolation, the guy who wrote Babylon 5 and the guys who made The Matrix get me every time ...

There's a pretty good reason people call him JMS most of the time, and it's not because it's catchy. I think people started calling Arnold Schwarzenegger, "Arnie" and just "Arnold" because they couldn't write or pronounce his last name correctly too.