Iron Man 3. Jon Favreau speaks about next villain (Spoilers?)

[FPAlpha]

Doesn't matter to the general viewer who has most likely seen Spiderman 3 of FF 2 and doesn't make the distinction between Marvel produced movies and those from Fox or someone else.. they know that there's a world beyond Earth with life in it and so alien technology can exist.

 

[exodus]

^^Arguing the point doesn't matter if Farvreau as already said "No" to the idea.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Arc Reactor or this new element it shall be. Those will power the rings, possiy even be the missing link towards global domination or destruction. We shall see what the actual plot will be, but I'm thinking arms race within the countries and weapons manufacturers has been a general theme in both movies thus far

 

[Mr Light]

The Spider-Man movies were *heavy quotation marks* "plausible" but then in #3 an alien symbiote fell out of the sky without any explanation. Not to mention the ending of Iron Man 2 featured a cameo from the Norse Gods.

 

[Greg Cox]

The Mandarin has always been problematic, which is why even Marvel keeps reinventing him every few years: he's Fu Manchu, he's a bare-chested warrior, he's an evil sorcerer, he has dragon hands, he's replaced by his son, he's an old man in a business suit . . . .

Favreau has plenty of versions of the Mandarin to cherry-pick from. He doesn't have to go with the more magical or alien versions.

 

[Noname Given]

Wait, when in recent years has the Mandarin's rings not been technologically based?! Weren't they power cells or some such from an alien ship, and always referenced as such?

It's the "finding them in a alien ship" part of the technology they can't use.

Why the heck not? It's not like aliens are new to comics and films. Superman is ABOUT an alien coming to Earth; and hell, in other Marvel properties done by other studios, we've seen the Silver Surfer and Galactus.

What, are you going to make the arguement that 'aliens' now somehow strains 'realism' in a comic book based superhero film?

 

[Caliburn24]

Superman and the FF movies have not blown away the box office or critics though.

The Dark Knight has. The impact of that is heavily influencing the development of the Marvel movie universe.

 

[Anwar]

That's not stopping them from having the next movie be about Norse Gods.

 

[Captain Craig]

The Dark Knight has. The impact of that is heavily influencing the development of the Marvel movie universe.

No, you are wrong about that(using actual Mandarin origin) and here is why.

Point 1

That's not stopping them from having the next movie be about Norse Gods.

If they were totally afraid of aliens then ancient mythic gods are out also.

Point 2 & 3
Iron Man and Incredible Hulk were shot and in the can and debuted the same summer as TDK. Therefore TDK can't be claimed to influence how Marvel is crafting their shared universe.

If Favreau doesn't want to go the truest route that is his choice not anything TDK has to do with it. However, I'd like to point out to John that staying as true as possible hasn't hurt so far, just saying you could tweak it just enough.

 

[Ruaidhri]

Hell, even if they chose to go the magic route, they could simply set up a yin-yang/tech-magic theme.

But you can't possibly do Iron Man without the Mandarin.

When John Romita Jr. redesigned the Living Laser for Armor Wars II, it's a good example of taking a crappy villain and making him dynamic and cool. All it takes is a little creativity.

 

[exodus]

Wait, when in recent years has the Mandarin's rings not been technologically based?! Weren't they power cells or some such from an alien ship, and always referenced as such?

It's the "finding them in a alien ship" part of the technology they can't use.

Why the heck not? It's not like aliens are new to comics and films. Superman is ABOUT an alien coming to Earth; and hell, in other Marvel properties done by other studios, we've seen the Silver Surfer and Galactus.

What, are you going to make the arguement that 'aliens' now somehow strains 'realism' in a comic book based superhero film?

No, John Farvreau is for his Iron Man films.
Superman & FF are different films, done by different people & aren't connected to Farveau and what his ideas & themes are for his Iron Man films.
It doesn't matter what we think or what we want, he already said "No".
How hard is that to grasp?

Did you read the article?
He already told us why not.
Did you even read what poster Greg Cox also wrote one post above yours?

 

[Angela 0077]

But dont you think that if you have had a good run with the first installiment and looking at the second made me think that it should not be continued or this third one might be a disaster if they dont lift there game on the acting side of it.

Really? I thought the acting in Iron Man 2 was excellent.

well when l was watching the movie it was slow and the characters didnt do much and when they did it was not long before we got alot of talking in the movie..

I prefer a movie with a bit of action in it and it was really lacking in this installiment

I did like the dancing scene and the music by ACDC.

I also liked the part where the robots were fighting too.

But it took awhle for us to veiw this

 

[SG-17]

Well if the Mandarin does become the villain in Iron Man 3 (which I think he should, if not A.I.M and MODOK) than the rings should be reverse engineered from ancient alien technology. Not directly alien, but reverse engineered.

Also I hope that Tony develops Extremis or hints at in Iron Man 3.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Gwyneth Paltrow has stated that she wants more action in the next movie. Time to bring in the "Rescue" armor?

 

[StarTrek1701]

I must say Favreau and Company missed a BIG opportunity at introducing The Mandarin in the second installment of IM rather than just do a generalized rehash of the first movie.

Here's what I'd do:

Opening shot

We see the scenery of somewhere in mainland China, a man with warm clothing and masks walking during a heavy snowfall time. Camera pans out and says "Valley of Souls, NE China, 1935". He is beaten, weary, seemingly giving up hope where he suddenly comes upon a somewhat cavesite. Peering in he watches as a 'beacon' of some sort is flickering, and as he comes near it, is doused with a ray of light.

Next scene

Right from the light brightness we see Tony Stark's chest-piece shooting a huge ray and disabling a 'Ten Ring' terroristic engagement. He is with his Mark 4 suit, blasting away, cool music going on, caption reads 'Present Day, China'. Tony Stark is single handedly taking apart the Ten Rings terror group it seems (they didnt all perish in the last movie) yet Tony quips "hope this is the last one!" as Jarvis goes "Indeed Sir, this is the last holdout of the TR". Final shot of Tony shooting a missile towards the screen:

Title: IRON MAN *clang!* II.

........I'll get back to it tomorrow

 

[Anwar]

Wasn't Hammer wearing a big Ring on his pinky?

 

[SG-17]

Yeah he was. Wasn't Stane also wearing a ring? Raza also?

It may mean nothing, or everything.

 

[Nowhere Man]

Wait, when in recent years has the Mandarin's rings not been technologically based?! Weren't they power cells or some such from an alien ship, and always referenced as such?

It's the "finding them in a alien ship" part of the technology they can't use.

Do they even have to mention where the rings came from? Can't the Mandarin just show up like the Joker did in The Dark Knight and just start frackin shit up? No back story just an agenda. Maybe Tony could make a comment about the rings and the Mandarin says he got them from an alien spaceship and Tony laughs and says "yeah right." Or something like that.

 

[exodus]

Wait, when in recent years has the Mandarin's rings not been technologically based?! Weren't they power cells or some such from an alien ship, and always referenced as such?

It's the "finding them in a alien ship" part of the technology they can't use.

Do they even have to mention where the rings came from? Can't the Mandarin just show up like the Joker did in The Dark Knight and just start frackin shit up? No back story just an agenda. Maybe Tony could make a comment about the rings and the Mandarin says he got them from an alien spaceship and Tony laughs and says "yeah right." Or something like that.

Ask John Farveau.

 

[Timby]

well when l was watching the movie it was slow and the characters didnt do much and when they did it was not long before we got alot of talking in the movie..

I don't get this criticism. The original Iron Man has precisely four action sequences: The attack on the convoy in the Middle East, the Mark I's escape from the prison camp, Iron Man attacking the Middle Eastern terrorists followed by his pursuit from the Air Force, and the final battle between Iron Man and Stane.

Iron Man 2 has the Monaco incident, the sequence during the birthday party, and the final battle of War Machine / Iron Man plus the drones, and Whiplash (which lasts more than twenty minutes, nearly thirty, with Romanov's infiltration of Hammer's building). There's one fewer action scene, but the total action screentime is almost identical to the first movie.

The first Iron Man was, essentially, "Tony Stark is a dick for 25 minutes and then some stuff happens, and then Tony Stark is a dick for another 25 minutes, and then some more stuff happens." There are problems with Iron Man 2, some very big ones, but to love the first one and then criticize the sequel for the same reasons people appreciated the original is rather backwards.