Iron Man 3. Jon Favreau speaks about next villain (Spoilers?)
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Yep, its an action sequence.
Hmm looks like they do own the X-men rights too. I'd be keen to see the Lady Mandarin story where the Mandarin and the Hand work over Betsy Braddock and brainwash her into a telepathic assassin. Treading on the X-men's toes a bit but at least it is a plot that takes them away from powered suits. Plus finding a purple-haired asian actress with a posh English accent wont be easy.
Psylocke would fit better in the next Wolverine movie, rather than Iron Man.
FOX owns the X-Men rights. They're finally getting around to making the story everyone has wanted to see since the beginning. No, not the sentinals, but rather the story of XAVIER AND MAGNETO HANGING OUT.
Whoa gay pensioner porn? Well, I'll try it once but I'm not sure I want to see Ian and Patrick in black leather.
Not everyone.
I tend to agree with Favreau. In a comic, you can throw in everything but the kitchen sink and nobody will blink, because the audience is predisposed to be very accepting of such sci-fi/fantasy cocktails. The general movie-going audience, not so much. Every fantastical element they add pushes the suspension of disbelief. Throw in aliens and magic, and audiences will start balking.
Of course, we are talking about the Avengers, so they are pretty much stuck with the kitchen sink. I hope they can pull it off. If they can, I'll be amazed.
as for Iron Man, there is enough variability in the Mandarin's background to make the ring's tech-based.
Of course, we are talking about the Avengers, so they are pretty much stuck with the kitchen sink. I hope they can pull it off. If they can, I'll be amazed.
as for Iron Man, there is enough variability in the Mandarin's background to make the ring's tech-based.
I don't know. I think people underestimate the general audiences' tolerance for far-out fantasy elements. Look at the blockbuster success of the PIRATES OF THE CARIBEAN movies, HARRY POTTER, TWILIGHT, CLASH OF THE TITANS,TRANSFORMERS, etc.
If audiences can accept giant alien robots that turn into cars, not to mention sea monsters and teenage werewolves, I think they can handle a magic alien ring or two . . . .
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Despite the fact that Iron Man is a comic book super hero, the films aren't really about being a superhero as much as it is about the trade of arms dealing. If that's the underlying theme of Iron Man films, magic ring detracts from all of that. It would be like putting TAS version of Clayface in Dark Knight or having Mutt Williams swinging with e monkeys in the last Indiana Jones film. It doesn't fit with the atmosphere the films already established and takes you out of it's element. There already asking us to extend belief thinking that he can have that reactor be his heart. Some people are already asking: How does he shower with an electrical device in his chest?
Indiana Jones is fiction too but the audience didn't accept that idea of inter-dimensional aliens in the last one nor did they care for the over the top Temple of Doom. So yes, for certain films there are things the audience won't accept.
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Honestly, I don't think audiences flock to IRON MAN movies because they're drawn by its "mature" themes, let alone a deep and abiding interest in the subject of arms dealing. We're talking about a blockbuster summer fantasy film, featuring a comic book superhero.
Don't get me wrong. IRON MAN is great. Hell, I've written five novels about him--and had a great time doing so. But it's not any deeper or more mature than PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN or CLASH OF THE TITANS . . . .
Don't get me wrong. IRON MAN is great. Hell, I've written five novels about him--and had a great time doing so. But it's not any deeper or more mature than PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN or CLASH OF THE TITANS . . . .
Sonic energy showers? 
Anywho, they aren't shying away from the Hulk and Thor both co-existing within the same world as Iron Man. By the time IM3 comes around Thor will have already been released so the precedent for magic will already be there.
Mandarin's rings aren't even magic, they're alien tech.
Or hell, they can have Mandarin say that he forged the rings from some gem-meteorite he found years ago that generated unearthly energies. Then if he shows up later on in Avengers he can say that he really found them in a crashed alien ship (since Avengers will have all the fantasy stuff in it too).
Anywho, they aren't shying away from the Hulk and Thor both co-existing within the same world as Iron Man. By the time IM3 comes around Thor will have already been released so the precedent for magic will already be there.
Mandarin's rings aren't even magic, they're alien tech.
Or hell, they can have Mandarin say that he forged the rings from some gem-meteorite he found years ago that generated unearthly energies. Then if he shows up later on in Avengers he can say that he really found them in a crashed alien ship (since Avengers will have all the fantasy stuff in it too).
In all fairness, do the rings really have to alien or magical?
Are you really going to miss that element if they aren't?Do we really have to be so rigid that we can't accept them as some thing he created himself? Wouldn't that show off what a genius the Mandarin is supposed to be, rather than him finding them in an alien ship? Seriously, how is Mandarin a rival of Stark if he can't even create his own greatest weapon? Fans would be more disappointed with the film I think finding out he's a fraud.
Frankly, I'm more concerned that the Mandarin not be played as an Asian stereotype and all looking like Ming the Merciless.
Eh, they managed to keep Vanko as a Russian without any offensive stereotyping. Mandarin won't be too much of a problem, especially not the name.
And anyways, two of the major antagonists were both white american guys so it's clear that Iron Man is equal opportunity with evil dudes.
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From the arcticle, it's still a concern of Farvreau's though.
Don't you think a film sets a tone for itself, though? Those movies firmly planted themselves with the fantasy/alien sci-fi tone from the first frame. If that's done, audiences accept that. It's when you start pulling the tone rug out from under the audience that they start to balk a little bit. Favreau has set a very particular tone in his films, and that tone has been an attempt to ground whatever fantastic elements there are in a realistic world. There's only so far you can push that before everything starts to seem different and an audience rejects it.
It's not impossible to change the tone of a film series, but it is difficult. The first series of Batman films had a steady change of tone, and look what happened there.
