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[Turtletrekker]

Systematically is almost an understatement. He practically kicked out all of Luke Cage's cast. Interestingly enough, he wasn't on Power Man and Iron Fist all that long and, when leaving, took Colleen and Misty with him. Fortunately, Mary Jo Duffy took over not too long after, reclaimed Misty and Colleen, and at least brought back some of Luke Cage's cast (at least as intermittent guests).

Well, Claremont's mandate on the book was to revitalize both characters. To give them both a fresh start. A jumping on point, if you will.

That said, there are a lot of names in issues 48 through 50 that would be very familiar to fans of the Luke Cage Netflix series. Reva Connors, Claire Temple, Bushmaster, Shades, Comanche.

One significant change of note from the comics to the screen, for those of you who might not have been aware, is that in the comics Danny's love interest was actually Misty, not Colleen.

I don't know the history of mixed ethnicity relationships in comics, so I don't know if it was groundbreaking or not, but in the early 70s it certainly would have been of note.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

The first interracial kiss in Marvel comics was Killraven so I know that must have come before Iron Fist. That being said, I'm sure there was some controversy. It's worth noting that a white male and black female in a romance was seen as less controversial, which is what's done here but I like that there's need to treat the Misty/Danny relationship as anything other than straight-forward and normal.

 

[JD]

That said, there are a lot of names in issues 48 through 50 that would be very familiar to fans of the Luke Cage Netflix series. Reva Connors, Claire Temple, Bushmaster, Shades, Comanche.

Shades came from the comics? For some reason I had just assumed he was an original creation of the show.

 

[Marsden]

I'm hoping this opens a slot for another show in the same setting. There is so much they can do here, they have a fully realized "world" to work with. They could make a series centered on Karen Page working at the paper and each of the other 5 to 10 (depending on how you count) hero characters are covered in her news articles.

Plus, I'm still hoping for Ghost Rider.

Heroes for Hire and/or Knightwing Restorations would also be a great replacement.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Shades came from the comics? For some reason I had just assumed he was an original creation of the show.

It really is an "in name only" kind of thing with both Shades and Comanche. So, in most ways, he was original to the show. (See also: Lance Hunter, Alphonso Mackenzie, Eric Koenig)

 

[Doc Mugatu]

Well, it is official: Iron Fist has been cancelled by Netflix. If Disney resurrects it for their streaming service I am hoping they do a full on reboot as the Netflix incarnation was a mess. The good never outweighed the bad. Danny Rand/Iron Fist was the worst part of it. Their take on this character never stopped being baffling.

 

[LJones41]

They could make a series centered on Karen Page working at the paper and each of the other 5 to 10 (depending on how you count) hero characters are covered in her news articles.

No . . . thank . . . you. No thank you. I like Karen Page. But I don't love her. And I find her change of careers from secretary to newspaper journalist really hard to swallow. I don't know how in the hell that happened. That's pure fantasy, even in a fictional story. It's bad enough I cannot deal with the super boring Matt/Karen relationship.

I would rather see Season Three of "Iron Fist", thank you very much. Now that my desire for the Marvel Netflix franchise has been somewhat severed, I now only have one series left that I have truly enjoyed so far . . . namely "Luke Cage".

 

[The Nth Doctor]

No . . . thank . . . you. No thank you. I like Karen Page. But I don't love her. And I find her change of careers from secretary to newspaper journalist really hard to swallow. I don't know how in the hell that happened. That's pure fantasy, even in a fictional story.

I have to agree with this. I love Daredevil through and through, even most of the parts most people don't like about season 2, but I've never liked Karen's career path into journalism. It's not her choice in journalism that bothers me, but rather how she was able to get a job as a reporter so quickly with literally no experience and then she was suddenly treated by Ellison as if she was some great journalist simply because of their mutual friendship with Ben Urich (whose premature death was a great waste). Speaking as someone who has a career in journalism, this part of the show has stood out poorly for me.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I'm hoping this opens a slot for another show in the same setting. There is so much they can do here, they have a fully realized "world" to work with. They could make a series centered on Karen Page working at the paper and each of the other 5 to 10 (depending on how you count) hero characters are covered in her news articles.

Plus, I'm still hoping for Ghost Rider.

Heroes for Hire and/or Knightwing Restorations would also be a great replacement.

Ghost Rider is on AoS. He clearly isn't one of the characters Netflix is allowed to play with, and considering Marvel/Disney's plans for their own streaming service, it's questionable whether Netflix will be allowed to take any more new characters rather than just keeping the ones they already have.

 

[thribs]

Pity. This and Daredevil were the two shows I liked.
Oh well..

 

[Terok Nor]

I'm not surprised. It was okay but at the bottom of the pile along with Puke Cage. Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Punisher are great shows. There's no need for Iron Fist and Luke Cage.

 

[Turtletrekker]

"Puke Cage."

Oh, that's clever. Did you think of that all by yourself?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Anyway, I noticed something clever in episode 9.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, Iron Fist season 2 utilized Clayton Barber, Black Panther's fight coordinator for the season.

Note that Danny and T'Challa both used the same move to take out Davos and Killmonger.

The syringe / knife gets knocked out of the heroes hand straight up into the air, and then on the way down with one movement the hero grabs the syringe / knife and takes out the bad guy.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Anyway, I noticed something clever in episode 9.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, Iron Fist season 2 utilized Clayton Barber, Black Panther's fight coordinator for the season.

Note that Danny and T'Challa both used the same move to take out Davos and Killmonger.

The syringe / knife gets knocked out of the heroes hand straight up into the air, and then on the way down with one movement the hero grabs the syringe / knife and takes out the bad guy.

Oh, nice observation! I completely missed that parallel.

 

[Terok Nor]

"Puke Cage."

Oh, that's clever. Did you think of that all by yourself?

It's a typo. Sorry.

 

[JD]

Ghost Rider is on AoS. He clearly isn't one of the characters Netflix is allowed to play with, and considering Marvel/Disney's plans for their own streaming service, it's questionable whether Netflix will be allowed to take any more new characters rather than just keeping the ones they already have.

Yeah, now that Disney is getting their own streaming service, I'm thinking any new series will be either on either one of the networks or cable channels, or on Disney Play. I can't see them giving any new shows to other streaming services now that they have their own.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Yeah, now that Disney is getting their own streaming service, I'm thinking any new series will be either on either one of the networks or cable channels, or on Disney Play. I can't see them giving any new shows to other streaming services now that they have their own.

I can see them being allowed new 'shows' with the same characters. IE, if they decide to do Heroes for Hire instead of IF. But I think any new hero character (who isn't somehow connected to the group Netflix already has) is reserved for the new service.

 

[Reverend]

General question for anyone that's finished season 2: I've only watched the first five episodes and I was wondering if there's anything in the remainder (continuity wise) that looks like it'd be worth holding off on Daredevil season 3 until I've gotten through this show?

 

[Grendelsbayne]

General question for anyone that's finished season 2: I've only watched the first five episodes and I was wondering if there's anything in the remainder (continuity wise) that looks like it'd be worth holding off on Daredevil season 3 until I've gotten through this show?

Continuity wise I highly doubt Daredevil season 3 will reference a single thing from IF season 2. I mean, no guarantees, but I don't see any plausible connection.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

General question for anyone that's finished season 2: I've only watched the first five episodes and I was wondering if there's anything in the remainder (continuity wise) that looks like it'd be worth holding off on Daredevil season 3 until I've gotten through this show?

Not that I can think of. Particularly since they were filming at the same time so there wasn't a ton of time to reference anything.