Interesting quirk: we're three for three on episode titles being spoken in dialogue.

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  1. guyute03

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    I noticed it too. And the Butcher's Knife title sounds extremely grim. I expect much death.
     
  2. SpocksOddSocks

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    IFTFY :D
     
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  3. KennyB

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  4. Christopher

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    Well, yes, that was clearly stated in dialogue and shown in numerous VFX shots throughout the first two episodes. There's no mystery to that. It's just that binary star systems are so incredibly common that it's too vague a location designator.
     
  5. Prax

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    Ah, I see(says the blind man as he...)
     
  6. The Wormhole

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    It's very common these days for episode titles to be taken from a line of dialogue spoken in a key scene of the episode. Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead are especially guilty of this titling practice.
    I think you mean Dr. Bashir.
     
  7. zar

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    Speaking of... "For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky" was also spoken in that episode.
     
  8. Paul Weaver

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    Saru, is that you?

    You would think that the star with a listening post would have a name, or at least an identifier, even if it was something like "J-25" (although how J-25 can identify a star system by itself is another question, assuming the numbers ony go up to say 10,000 that's still a mere 260,000 stars. There's about 80 million within 2000 light years of earth, and J-25 was 7kly away)
     
  9. KirkusOveractus

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    I think it was Starlog or one of the other magazines with Trek coverage that did a grid which had TOS episode titles, then what they would have been in TNG, DS9 and VOY. It was funny, because when you look at the VOY column, they were all one word titles.
     
  10. Christopher

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    At least Voyager titles weren't always one word. They had their share of longer titles, including three with 5 words ("The Q and the Gray," "Someone to Watch Over Me," and "The Haunting of Deck Twelve") and seven with 4 words ("Eye of the Needle," "Message in a Bottle," "Once Upon a Time," "Barge of the Dead," "Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy," "Blink of an Eye," "Live Fast and Prosper" -- not counting 2-word titles followed by "Part I" or "Part II"), and a fair number with 2-3 words. The season with the shortest average title length was season 2, with only five very short 2-word titles ("The 37s," "Non Sequitur," "Cold Fire," "Death Wish," "The Thaw") and one 3-word title ("Persistence of Vision"). Season 7 was close, with eight 2-word titles and two 3-word titles. Seasons 2 and 7 were the only ones with no titles longer than 3 words.

    What bugs me is something like Smallville, where every episode was required to have a one-word title. It got really labored and tedious after a while. The one exception was the season-9 two-parter that was promoted by the network as "Absolute Justice" and is apparently officially referred to that way on the DVDs and episode guides, but that was originally just a promotional label for a pair of episodes with one-word titles.
     
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  11. Kor

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    I still think the reference to lambs' cry and butcher's knife is an allusion to William Blake's "Auguries of Innocence." Perhaps the poem will figure into the episode somehow.

    Kor
     
  12. Christopher

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    I dunno about that... the similarity is vague enough that they could just both be referencing some wider cultural metaphor. But on the other hand, the opening lines of the poem...
    ...sound a lot like what Stamets was saying about the theory underlying the Spore Drive.
     
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  13. Quinton O'Connor

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    Aaaaand the streak is broken. Alas, friends, nobody remarked that the butcher's knife cares not for the lamb's cry.
     
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  14. Cyrus

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    who was the lamb? The spore drive creature? Saru?
     
  15. Quinton O'Connor

    Quinton O'Connor Commodore Commodore

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    Kor was the butcher's knife to Voq's lamb. The Tardigrade is the lamb to Lorca's knife.

    Saru's threat ganglia detects them all.
     
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  16. Cyrus

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    "Choose your pain" was said in the episode, as if there was any doubt.
     
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  17. Markonian

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    I may have heard somebody mumbling it once or so. :rommie:
     
  18. Captain of the USS Averof

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    So, we’re at four out of five.