Insurrection Ending

[nx1701g]

So I was watching Insurrection this evening and I got to thinking during the ending about the original ending. For those unfamiliar the original ending involved Ru'afo successfully launching the collector. In the end instead of being disintegrated by the flames he deaged to a period before he was born.

Which ending would you have preferred?

 

[Shazam!]

It's easy to say the original ending because it sounds quite 'Star Treky'.

 

[Jeyl]

Plus the original ending shows Picard actually trying to save the guy, instead of having that stupid "Bye bye loser" beam out that we got in the final product. That's some cold blooded crap right there.

 

[Falcor5]

Did the producers and director ever say why they decided to change the ending? Seems like the original ending is far superior.

 

[Ziz]

Probably because the original ending would have taken a modicum of intelligence for the audience to understand it.

 

[Grant]

It tested badly. Just like the Generations first ending.

 

[Falcor5]

It tested badly. Just like the Generations first ending.

Wow really? I cant figure out why it would test badly. In the ending we got The Enterprise crew seems kinda ruthless the way they just let Ru'afo die. I wonder if they tested the final ending or just assumed it was better?

 

[Ziz]

See my previous post. The average Joe wants an action packed, "Take that muthafucka!" ending. Trek fans want something more logical.

 

[AthanisTree]

Would concur with the sentiment that the 'original ending' would seem more in keeping with Star Trek. Insurrection is a favourite of mine but it felt so unlike the Picard character we'd known to just leave the horrible bugger to a shiny-flame ending.

Perhaps it t'were his hormones, bouncing about him after all of that radiation

 

[Chrisisall]

Perhaps it t'were his hormones, bouncing about him after all of that radiation

Aggressive tendencies of youth intrusion.

 

[Aike]

I wish they hadn´t used any of the endings and never made Insurrection. This movie killed TNG.

 

[Shazam!]

^ Well that's actual nonsense. If it had killed TNG they never would have made Nemesis. That killed TNG.

 

[Chrisisall]

^ Well that's actual nonsense. If it had killed TNG they never would have made Nemesis. That killed TNG.

Sadly, you are correct.

 

[Candlelight]

Did the producers and director ever say why they decided to change the ending? Seems like the original ending is far superior.

The test audience didn't react too well with it, despite the fact they got in incomplete print with little to no special effects completed (including the de-aging sequence).

The producers also wanted the Enterprise to come in at the last minute and save the day, thus Picard would be beamed out. WHY Ru'Afo isn't beamed out as well is beyond me, as all through the movie they were going on about making sure people stood trial for their crimes, and yet Ru'Afo is left to burn to a crisp.

To be honest I did prefer the original ending. Ru'Afo spent the whole movie trying to regain his youth, and suddenly he gets it - wholesale. Maybe after that Picard's tampering to stop the collector's launch from davastating the planet causes it to start to explode, and the Enterprise THEN comes in at the last minute to save the day. Mix the two endings together...

 

[Bones2]

If ever Picard does anything silly now, we can just blame the Irimodic syndrome. But from what I remember, Picard thought that was it for him ("Sorry Enterprise, time's up" or somesuch), so I'm not sure he's to blame. Maybe the Enterprise only had Picard's signal in time, or something. It's a while since I've seen it.

As for Insurrection in general, there are some good ideas there, but I think the script was very much in need of a rewrite. I can't help thinking at the moment that the So'na are in the right. As I remember, the Ba'ku aren't native to the planet, and so, as the So'na are an offshoot of them, the So'na have as much right to the planet as they do. As well as all the many people the stuff in the rings could have helped medically. My second-least favourite Trek film. after TMP.

Why did Piller right the ninth film anyway? Moore/Braga were a great team, and I'd rather they'd written another.

 

[DWF]

I prefer what we got instead of the original ending, Ru'afo crossed a line when killed the Admiral, he pretty much got waht was coming to him as did Khan, Krudge and Nero and the Duras sister.

 

[Candlelight]

I prefer what we got instead of the original ending, Ru'afo crossed a line when killed the Admiral, he pretty much got waht was coming to him as did Khan, Krudge and Nero and the Duras sister.

But in the original ending he still died!

 

[trevanian]

Did the producers and director ever say why they decided to change the ending? Seems like the original ending is far superior.

I think the word that was bandied about was 'soft' ending.

Regardless of how he died or fried, I greatly prefer the ending we got, just because of the great miniature and pyro work done (in almost no time at all) for the collector interior and exterior. Best looking stuff in the film.

 

[Elemental]

Maybe there was some technobabble nonsense about why they couldn't lock the transporter on 2 people at once during that explosion...

I'm honestly surprised to hear a lot of people say that ending sounds better. There was a TNG episode in season 1 or two that had that exact same ending! Sorry, it just seems a bit cheesy. And they would have definitely caught even more hell from the fanbase if they ended the movie with the same gimmic as an episode.

 

[JarodRussell]

I like the final ending more. We have Riker doing a nice maneuver, Worf throwing some punches, and the music is better than for the original ending (it's on the soundtrack album if anyone's wondering). All the fighting didn't happen in the original ending, it was just Picard vs. Ru'afo.

But I also would have preferred Rua'fo to die like in the original ending. It's just so ironic. All he wanted was to become young again. And he got what he wished for.