Instead of the TCW...
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They were.
Besides there were more episodes about the Romulans in one season than there was about the TCW in 4 seaosns. Especially is you note that Stormfront was all about the Temporal Hot War and not the Temporal Cold War.
Besides there were more episodes about the Romulans in one season than there was about the TCW in 4 seaosns. Especially is you note that Stormfront was all about the Temporal Hot War and not the Temporal Cold War.
If you mean it should've been entirely 22nd Century based, I couldn't agree more. The TCW became too complex, with all those factions. Sphere Builders, Tholians, future Humans like Daniels and whatever Vosk's race were called... Whose to say future Romulans didn't arm and give technology to the Suliban? We never saw much more than Future Guy's silhouette after all.
I'd like to see Pocket Books fill in those gaps, since Paramount killed off the show. But I doubt it'll happen with the focus shifting to Romulan skermishes.
I'd like to see Pocket Books fill in those gaps, since Paramount killed off the show. But I doubt it'll happen with the focus shifting to Romulan skermishes.
The sphere builders were fiddling in time but they were not involved int he temporal cold war. If some of their blather can be taken at face value their existence was cross time that their activities from 10,000 years earlier when they began building the spheres was all the same to them as now because they were continually viewing the future and and having their pasts bitch to them about the best decisions they should be making.
You don't need a score card for this game.
You don't need a score card for this game.
Indeed, totally agree.
Infact, why not instead of the Sulibans, have the Orions as the mercenaries for hire, and instead of the Klingons being manipulated, have it be the Andorians.
And the aliens from Silent Enemy could have been the Romulans too, just have their spacesuits with tinted faceplates, it would have been a much better introduction to them than what we got in that stupid Minefield ep.
They could have revisited so many established races, given them back-stories and helped solidify the ongoing story of Enterprise without having to introduce a bunch of species we'd never heard of before and that have apparently been right next door to Earth the entire time throughout the 23rd and 24th centuries. Enterprise made space seem even more crowded than ever before.
I wished they'd stuck mostly to already established species, fleshing them out and showing how first contact with them would have been, species like the Trill, Bolians, those golden dwarfs from Journey to Babel, maybe even the Betazoids (since they're apparently pretty close to Earth, would have been interesting to see how humans and T'Pol would have reacted to a completely telepathic species).
A few of the introduced ones were pretty good though, such as the Xindi and Denobulans, I've no problem with a few new species being introduced, just the shear number of new ones was staggering.
And the TCW was badly thought out and executed.
Infact, why not instead of the Sulibans, have the Orions as the mercenaries for hire, and instead of the Klingons being manipulated, have it be the Andorians.
And the aliens from Silent Enemy could have been the Romulans too, just have their spacesuits with tinted faceplates, it would have been a much better introduction to them than what we got in that stupid Minefield ep.
They could have revisited so many established races, given them back-stories and helped solidify the ongoing story of Enterprise without having to introduce a bunch of species we'd never heard of before and that have apparently been right next door to Earth the entire time throughout the 23rd and 24th centuries. Enterprise made space seem even more crowded than ever before.
I wished they'd stuck mostly to already established species, fleshing them out and showing how first contact with them would have been, species like the Trill, Bolians, those golden dwarfs from Journey to Babel, maybe even the Betazoids (since they're apparently pretty close to Earth, would have been interesting to see how humans and T'Pol would have reacted to a completely telepathic species).
A few of the introduced ones were pretty good though, such as the Xindi and Denobulans, I've no problem with a few new species being introduced, just the shear number of new ones was staggering.
And the TCW was badly thought out and executed.
...But it was the Romulans in Silent Enemy, and seriously, do you really think any thought was put into the TWC?
Well, thinking of stuff when you're high is still thinking, it's just not coherent or understandable to people who aren't.
Trust me, put enough drugs into your system and I'm sure the TCW will make sense... then you'll start to bleed from your ears and die shortly after.
Trust me, put enough drugs into your system and I'm sure the TCW will make sense... then you'll start to bleed from your ears and die shortly after.
The problem with the TCW was it got more and more muddled over time-there was no key villain to focus on, Archer was always made to look dumbfounded by TCW stuff (Shockwave, etc), and it never really succeded in adding meaningful dramatic tension. Most of ENT's other arcs worked very well, IMHO, but the TCW just kind of fell flat for me.
I, for one, was glad when it was wrapped up in S4.
I, for one, was glad when it was wrapped up in S4.
I remember when I had still faith in ENT, I wanted to make sense of the TCW and thought it just HAD to be the Romulans fooling evrybody (and it would have been so cool).
I thought things like:
"Yeah sure, the Daniels guy needs the Enterprise's sensors to locate Silik when he's got a room full of super-advanced doodads. He's just pulling everyone's leg. he even looks like a Rommie"
"Haha, Future guy looks totally like a Romulan"
"Archer, you naive fool, you better listen to T'Pol's skepticism about Daniels really being from the future"
I was hoping for a scene where Silik and Archer realize they have both been fooled and the Romulans are preparing to attack...
But I was wrong and it was all crap
I thought things like:
"Yeah sure, the Daniels guy needs the Enterprise's sensors to locate Silik when he's got a room full of super-advanced doodads. He's just pulling everyone's leg. he even looks like a Rommie"
"Haha, Future guy looks totally like a Romulan"
"Archer, you naive fool, you better listen to T'Pol's skepticism about Daniels really being from the future"
I was hoping for a scene where Silik and Archer realize they have both been fooled and the Romulans are preparing to attack...
But I was wrong and it was all crap
It wasn't muddled.
It was non existent.
The only episodes about the TCW were the pilot Broken Bow, Coldfront, Detained (barely!), two Nights and two days (Even more barely!) Shockwave and Future Tense(Were archer didn't know what he was doing, who he was helping or who won and there was no Daniels or Future guy, just Silik, so all the major players in that fracas were from the present.)... But not the Expanse or any of Daniels appearances after that because that was all about the Xindi, and definitely not Stormfront because that was about the war after the Federation lost the temporal cold war.
So really three stories, 5 episodes, and 4 of them were in season one.
Compared to the Dominion War? Really? No, seriously, really! Copmpared tot he Shadow War? Compared to even the last coupe seasons of Charmed where they attempted continuity because it looked so easy when Buffy did it.
Storm in a tea cup.
It was non existent.
The only episodes about the TCW were the pilot Broken Bow, Coldfront, Detained (barely!), two Nights and two days (Even more barely!) Shockwave and Future Tense(Were archer didn't know what he was doing, who he was helping or who won and there was no Daniels or Future guy, just Silik, so all the major players in that fracas were from the present.)... But not the Expanse or any of Daniels appearances after that because that was all about the Xindi, and definitely not Stormfront because that was about the war after the Federation lost the temporal cold war.
So really three stories, 5 episodes, and 4 of them were in season one.
Compared to the Dominion War? Really? No, seriously, really! Copmpared tot he Shadow War? Compared to even the last coupe seasons of Charmed where they attempted continuity because it looked so easy when Buffy did it.
Storm in a tea cup.
Guy, we don't know for sure they were ... we just assume so. The TCW was tied up so poorly in Storm Front 1 and 2 that who the f*ck knows what was intended. Shoddiest way to bring closure to the TCW ever.
Now Home I liked.
Home is what the last episode of Voyager should have been like.
Home is what the last episode of Voyager should have been like.
Home stunk. If I wanted Melrose Place, I'd watch that show. Vulcan should be like The Forge.
Enterprise wishes it was Melrose Place.
Maybe it does. I don't!
Because that would involve honoring past Trek history and listening to fan concerns. Can't have that in modern Trek!
The TCW sucked the big one. They should have just shown the Romulan War and the birth of the UFP from the beginning. Idiots!
But that's what the audience was expecting! So it was the last thing they deserved.
True. But making a prequel and not showing the Rommie War or the events that lead up to the creation of the Federation (at least, not until the last minute in S4) is like making a WW2 period film, and not showing Nazis.
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