Instead of DQ, should Voyager have been in another galaxy?
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But what about all those ones that were never heard from again, what about them??
I hate that guy.
Another major problem was the show not really having a sustainable plot. Their whole "Going Home" thing could never be accomplished before the end because that would end the show, meaning they couldn't accomplish anything for 7 seasons.
If they'd given them another plot in the meanwhile, then there would be more to work with.
If they'd given them another plot in the meanwhile, then there would be more to work with.
I'm trying to figure out how sustainable Harold and Kumar Go to Whitecastle would be for a hundred and 72 episodes?
That's so ridiculous, it might just work.
If Voyager had gotten home sooner (say the 4th season) that wouldn't have ended the show. The TNG Enterprise was going to be this "deep space" explorer, but the concept was change to keep the ship barely outside of the known Federation and often well inside the Federation. DS9 wasn't originally (afaik) going to be a multi-season war drama, until TPTB wrote that in.
Voyager gets home, everyone gets leave over the summer break, and the ship/crew heads back out.
Reconfiguration of concept, just like the other shows. No big deal.
Certainly. With the Dominion war, the Maquis on board, having Seven and the Doctor as unique as they were, there would be a host of dramatic turns they could have taken with the ship getting back to the Alpha Quadrant.If Voyager had gotten home sooner (say the 4th season) that wouldn't have ended the show. The TNG Enterprise was going to be this "deep space" explorer, but the concept was change to keep the ship barely outside of the known Federation and often well inside the Federation. DS9 wasn't originally (afaik) going to be a multi-season war drama, until TPTB wrote that in.
Voyager gets home, everyone gets leave over the summer break, and the ship/crew heads back out.
Reconfiguration of concept, just like the other shows. No big deal.
The first episode could be like Laurel & Hardy's Perfect Day, where the car keeps breaking down before they ever leave home and they never get to where they're wanting to go.
DS9 to say thank you and goodbye made/had a ten episode ongoing story leading towards the last moments.
That's called trying.
That's called trying.
Certainly. With the Dominion war, the Maquis on board, having Seven and the Doctor as unique as they were, there would be a host of dramatic turns they could have taken with the ship getting back to the Alpha Quadrant.If Voyager had gotten home sooner (say the 4th season) that wouldn't have ended the show. The TNG Enterprise was going to be this "deep space" explorer, but the concept was change to keep the ship barely outside of the known Federation and often well inside the Federation. DS9 wasn't originally (afaik) going to be a multi-season war drama, until TPTB wrote that in.
Voyager gets home, everyone gets leave over the summer break, and the ship/crew heads back out.
Reconfiguration of concept, just like the other shows. No big deal.
The DS9 writers wouldn't have wanted them back while DS9 was still on so they couldn't interfere. So it would have to be after the war.
And even then, that's just one season's worth of stuff even if it were drawn out (the whole resettling back in the AQ thing and introducing Seven).
Look at all the other "Lost Ship" series of the last 40 years worth remembering: Blakes' Seven, Farscape, LEXX, NuBSG.
All barely made it to 4 seasons. Because that's all the "Lost Ship" thing is good for AT MOST.
Most shows don't last more than 4 or 5 years unless they are crime or medical dramas. That's no fault of a lost ship drama. Your opinion trying to masquerade as fact doesn't make it so. As for what DS9 wanted, that would be up to the show runners who were the folks producing Voyager. So your opinion of what they would have wanted is just that, opinion, not fact.Certainly. With the Dominion war, the Maquis on board, having Seven and the Doctor as unique as they were, there would be a host of dramatic turns they could have taken with the ship getting back to the Alpha Quadrant.If Voyager had gotten home sooner (say the 4th season) that wouldn't have ended the show. The TNG Enterprise was going to be this "deep space" explorer, but the concept was change to keep the ship barely outside of the known Federation and often well inside the Federation. DS9 wasn't originally (afaik) going to be a multi-season war drama, until TPTB wrote that in.
Voyager gets home, everyone gets leave over the summer break, and the ship/crew heads back out.
Reconfiguration of concept, just like the other shows. No big deal.
The DS9 writers wouldn't have wanted them back while DS9 was still on so they couldn't interfere. So it would have to be after the war.
And even then, that's just one season's worth of stuff even if it were drawn out (the whole resettling back in the AQ thing and introducing Seven).
Look at all the other "Lost Ship" series of the last 40 years worth remembering: Blakes' Seven, Farscape, LEXX, NuBSG.
All barely made it to 4 seasons. Because that's all the "Lost Ship" thing is good for AT MOST.
Berman walks into the DS9 writers room a month before DS9s season 7 final scripts have to be handed in.
Berman "I want the Dominion War. Give it to me."
Ira "You want the Dominion War?"
Berman "You work for me bitch."
Ira "We have a plan and it's going to be wonderful."
Berman "I forgot I was producing this turd till yesterday. How about your Dominion fires off a lucky shot, blows up your rinky dink station, and then Janeway and Voyager come out of, what was it called "the wormhole" to really start saving the day and winning the war. Yeah?"
Berman "I want the Dominion War. Give it to me."
Ira "You want the Dominion War?"
Berman "You work for me bitch."
Ira "We have a plan and it's going to be wonderful."
Berman "I forgot I was producing this turd till yesterday. How about your Dominion fires off a lucky shot, blows up your rinky dink station, and then Janeway and Voyager come out of, what was it called "the wormhole" to really start saving the day and winning the war. Yeah?"
The "Lost Ship" thing isn't even sustainable for more than 2 seasons either. All those other shows more or less dropped the "Lost Ship" thing after one season for something else, or had something else as the major plot right from day one (cause the writers knew it wasn't sustainable otherwise).
VOY needed more to the plot than "Lost Ship" either from day one or after a season or so.
And they had one, the 8472 invasion and their war with the Borg. That's a series-driving plot.
You're forgetting the reset button.
The most that they sustained this story was 4 or 5 weeks.
Well under your deadline.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooo much filler.
The most that they sustained this story was 4 or 5 weeks.
Well under your deadline.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooo much filler.
That sounds like a very believable scenario.
The show worked for seven in spite of your opinion. Whether you thought it worked is irrelevant, it worked for the producers and a lot of fans, too. Your opinion, however much you want to pretend it's a fact, doesn't change that.
Thinking....
1995 Michael Piller Jeri Taylor
1996 Michael Piller Jeri Taylor
1997 Jeri Taylor
1998 Jeri Taylor Brannon Braga
1999 Brannon Braga
2000 Brannon Braga Kenneth Biller -
2001 Kenneth Biller -
Hmmm?
If you were an orphan and this was a list of people who you called mum and dad dragging you to their home from the orphanage to settle down forever with?
(not because of who they are, but because of how easily they abandon you.)
You'd probably have grown up to be a stripper.
1995 Michael Piller Jeri Taylor
1996 Michael Piller Jeri Taylor
1997 Jeri Taylor
1998 Jeri Taylor Brannon Braga
1999 Brannon Braga
2000 Brannon Braga Kenneth Biller -
2001 Kenneth Biller -
Hmmm?
If you were an orphan and this was a list of people who you called mum and dad dragging you to their home from the orphanage to settle down forever with?
(not because of who they are, but because of how easily they abandon you.)
You'd probably have grown up to be a stripper.
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