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Indiana Jones 5. It's official.

Vox's Alissa Wilkinson published a largely positive review while tying into the themes of aging, history, and the IP era we're in the middle of right now. She keeps most of the review vague and spoiler free, but she does mention a particular detail about the Dial itself I didn't know about (not really a spoiler, it may have already been known and I just missed it).

Of note:

Dial of Destiny feels like an emphatic period at the end of a very long sentence, a sequel making its own case against some future further resurrection — not unlike last year’s Cannes blockbuster premiere, Top Gun: Maverick, or 2021’s fourth installment of The Matrix. That’s not just because Harrison Ford is turning 81 this summer. It’s in the text; Dial of Destiny argues, explicitly, that you have to leave the past in the past, that the only way to ensure the world continues is to put one foot down and then another, moving into the future.

Ironic, yes, for a movie built on giant piles of nostalgia and made by a company that proudly spends most of its money nibbling its own tail. In fact, the entire Indiana Jones concept was nostalgia-driven even before the fedora made its big-screen debut. Harrison Ford’s whip-cracking adventurer descends from swashbuckling heroes of pulp stories and matinee serials that George Lucas and Steven Spielberg loved as kids; like that other franchise Ford launched, the Indy series is both original and pastiche, both contemporary-feeling and set in another time, another place, a world that’s far, far away.
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Yet a thread that’s run through the whole four-decade series, with heightened irony every time it comes up, is the battle between Indy — who firmly believes that history’s relics ought to be in a museum for everyone to enjoy — and fortune-seeking mercenaries or power-seeking Nazis, who want to privately acquire those artifacts for their own reasons. (Leaving the artifact where it is, perhaps even among its people, still doesn’t really seem to be an option.) It’s a mirror for the very real theft of artifacts throughout history by invading or colonizing forces, the taking of someone else’s culture for your own use or to assert your own dominance. That battle crops up again in this installment, with both mercenaries and Nazis on offer. Shaw, voicing a darker archaeological aim, wryly insists that thieving is just capitalism, and that cash is the only thing worth believing in; Voller’s aims are much darker.​
 
I'm not really sure how The Matrix Resurrections makes a case against hypothetical future films ( other than in the sense of the story options being kind of played out at this point ).
 
io9's Germain Lussier has published a positive review, which is largely spoiler free but he does go into some details about the opener, some details about the supporting characters, and heavily hints at a very promising third act. Here are a few bits that stood out:

In every measurable way, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is a proper “Indiana Jones” movie. It’s got a great premise, exciting action, wonderful banter, and some fantastic twists and turns. The biggest issue with it is you’re seeing it now, in 2023, so it can’t measure up to memories of the original Indiana Jones films—which might make it feel slightly less than. But when you really break it down, not only does Dial of Destiny hit all the beats it needs to, it advances them just enough to stand on its own and provide plenty of that Indy magic we know and love.

Think about it: how many times have you seen the original Indiana Jones films? A lot, we’re guessing. And even if you haven’t, more than likely you saw them when you were a kid which made it very easy to become enamored by them. Basically, anyone interested in seeing Dial of Destiny probably holds at least some of that nostalgia. Some of that impossible standard. Because even without that, most of us can surely agree that the first three films—1981's Raiders of the Lost Ark, 1984's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and 1989's Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade—are all varying degrees of classics. Almost 35 years later, having those same expectations is a very lofty, romantic notion.

Dial of Destiny has several lofty, romantic notions in it but co-writer and director James Mangold saves them for the moments they’ll hit hardest. Instead, for the most part, he goes back to basics. What must it have been like for an audience member to sit down in 1981, with no knowledge of who Indiana Jones is or what he did, and at the end say “That was a great movie”? It’s about a succinct, simple story. It’s about dynamic characters, and it’s about making us smile by having that story put those characters in harrowing, wonderous situations. Dial of Destiny understands this.
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Mangold’s film, at seemingly every moment throughout, is about Indiana Jones coming to terms with his mortality. He’s no longer the young adventurer we knew and loved. Those days are behind him, they cost him dearly, and he isn’t quite sure what he has to show for it. This permeating sadness gives the film some originality but also contrasts that typical Indy movie feeling. And so there needs to be balance.
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Dial of Destiny could’ve clearly been a non-stop fan service laundry list, but it’s not, unless you are a big fan and pick up on the subtle winks and nods. It was the right way to go.
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Mostly, however, the biggest problem is we didn’t get to see it when we were nine years old, and haven’t had a chance to watch and rewatch it hundreds of times over the decades like the other films in the series. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny does manage to make you feel like you’re nine years old, though. It’s a fun, funny, rousing, and heartfelt trip down memory lane filled with action and surprises. And, in time, as we watch it over and over, we’re confident that it’ll measure up to the classics that preceded it.
He goes on to discuss Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Helena and her sidekick, Teddy (Ethann Isidore), and the important roles they serve for the film's plot and how they fit within the franchise thematically.

Also, I couldn't help but notice that Lussier neatly avoids any discussion about any and all merits and criticisms of The Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls, but also doesn't list it as a classic to any degree (as oppose to The Temple of Doom with its racist issues, which isn't surprising considering his recent re-review of the film quickly brushed past those issues). I know I keep beating this drum, but I'm one of the few fans of that film so it's refreshing he doesn't go out of his way to berate the film during this film. He merely...acknowledges it and that's it.

All in all, it sounds pretty promising.
 
Oh god, the teen following the main woman around in the trailer is in the whole movie? For fucks sake, did they not learn with Short Round? Well, thats an instant "Wait for Disney+" for me then. I guess that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull manages to stay the third best Indiana Jones movie by default (which I suspected was going to be the case based onthe trailers, but this confirms it for me). I'm glad that I've always been wary of the movie since it was announced, it means I'm not particularly disappointed to find out its going to be bad because I've been prepared for that since the very idea of a fifth movie was rumored.
 
What's wrong with Short Round?

Loud, obnoxious, useless, takes away time from the main character, has no reason to exist, etc. This isn't new, for over 30 years people didn't go around pretending Short Round wasn't shit, but one mediocre movie in 2022 and its feel good story apparently makes people delusional :shrug: Listen, I'm glad the actor had a life/career affirming comeback, regardless of what I think of that movie, but Short Round still sucks. Just like Young Anakin still sucks, and Jar Jar Binks still sucks, etc. You can have sympathy for the actor behind the character, but that doesn't magically make something not shit

I'm sick of this modern trend of pretending stuff that sucks is good, actually. I swear, if someone tries to defend fucking Willie or Mutt :barf2:
 
Mutt sucks. Willie is definitely serviceable for that particular movie and she has fun moments.

Because we all know that cabaret singers and performers who worked the stage in the Great Depression couldn't remotely be annoying, egotistical whiners who complain when they get pulled into somebody else's adventures. :rolleyes:
 
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