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Incredible Hulk to end

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Whofan

Fleet Captain
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32272

Presumabely the green Hulk will return in a new #1 next year, perhaps during promotion for the Avengers movie.

This isn't the first time-like many Marvel titles (The exception being mainly some of the X-men stuff) the title was rebooted with a new #1 in the late 90s by John Bryne. It was also temporarily renamed the Incredible Hercules for a short time when the Greek god took over the title. The Red Hulk title seems to be doing well, though.


Sales have been pretty bad for the series lately, which, in the aftermath of Loeb's run on the Red Hulk title gave us a 'family' of Hulks, including Hulk's son, daughter, cousin, estranged wife, and best friend....
 
The constant renumbering of series as well as cancellations of one series to start the exact same series with new numbering is one of the many reasons that I reluctantly quit purchasing comics.

Ugh. I'm very bitter with the way TPTB have killed my interest in one of my favorite hobbies ever.
 
Yeah, I don't quite get the constant renumbering of the books, when they still follow the same storylines. I could see renumbering it if you're going to completely reboot the character with a new origin, but not if you're going to just continue on from where you left off.
 
I don't get it either. But Marvel seems more notorious about doing this than DC. I also wish they would just limit stuff to one or two books. It seems like the Hulk franchise expanded too much with all that War of the Hulks stuff and maybe this is part of the contraction.
 
Well, they do it to juice sales and to signal a clear jumping-on point for new readers. It must be a net gain for the publishers, or they would have stopped doing it.

It's guaranteed though, that when they approach what would have been the next issue number ending in "00" the numbering will be magically restored.

(Of course The Incredible Hulk has had a wonky publishing history anyway, being cancelled after #6 then taking a detour through Tales to Astonish before being renamed as The Incredible Hulk again.)
 
Hmmmmmm.

In Fear Itself, Banner Hulk is currently one of The Worthy, under the thrall of The Serpent, yet of all of The Worthy, Banner/Hulk is the only one to seem to have any of his real personality fighting for control. My prediction-- Marvel is going to kill-off (give a break to) Banner/Green Hulk in a heroic sacrifice to stop the Serpent, and Marvel will then let Red Hulk carry the "brand" for a while.
 
Actually how many different Hulk "lines" are out there currently?

I guess I know about Sakaar - King of the Savage Land (but is that a mini?).

Things are soo crazy in the fragmented world of minis, monthlies. It's crazy trying to keep it all going.
 
Comic books is a dying medium unless the TPTB get comic books outside of comic book stores and get a new generation reading them.
 
JD said:
Yeah, I don't quite get the constant renumbering of the books, when they still follow the same storylines. I could see renumbering it if you're going to completely reboot the character with a new origin, but not if you're going to just continue on from where you left off.
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Exactly.
I asked my LCS owner point blank who they(Marvel/DC) thought they were really fooling with this renumber/reboot every 4-6yrs. Cause as noted the new #1 has some if not a major tie to the series that just ended. IT IS NOT A JUMPING ON POINT as they once wanted you to believe was their reason for doing it.

My LCS owner said,"I think they are only fooling us, the owners." I told him not to order anymore of the next Flash series(cause that is when we talked of this) than you would have before Flashpoint began. Not one issue more.
 
Well, re-numbering, bad stories, multiple covers for the same issue, foil covers, 3-D covers, fake deaths, team members "quitting", major characters become new team members and never stay around, bad stories, fake deaths, bad marketing, hyping "collectability", and oh yes I almost forgot - bad stories, fake deaths and huge epic crossovers that never ever pay off. Plus - insanely high prices! That's why I quit buying comics. (very few exceptions for the above list. Very, Very Few!!)
 
Distorted Humor said:
Comic books is a dying medium unless the TPTB get comic books outside of comic book stores and get a new generation reading them.
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They just need to reduce the number of titles. If there was a Spider-Man or X-Men etc comic, I'd happily follow it but not when there are 12 Spidey titles or 16 X-Men books.

This is pretty much all you need:

Hulk
Iron-Man
Thor
Fantastic Four
Spider-Man
X-Men
The Punisher
Daredevil
The Avengers
Captain America

Everything else should be self-contained mini-series for when they have a decent story to tell.
 
Everyone knows the only reason why the comic book companies end one long-running series only to start it up in a new title from #1 is just for that initial 'sales bump' to have people think "oh it's a #1 issue... Maybe some day it'll be worth something" When honestly it probably won't ever be worth anything because comics today are in much higher quantities than the collectible issues from the golden age of comics and you have collectors taking better care of that comic from day 1. Some buying multiples that will never be opened and kept sealed.

Same goes for baseball cards. Whether a collectible becomes valuable is based on a number of factors, but the conditions and mind-sight of collectors for the past 20 or 30 years is such that the scarcity of items is never going to be the same as releases from the 40s/50s/60s.
 
Coolghoul, the current Hulk titles are:

The Incredible Hulks
Hulk
Skaar King of the Savage Land

Hulk also plays a big part in Fear Itself. While the other Hulk, The Red Hulk is now an Avenger.

There were recently some other Hulk titles and mini-series, such as the She-Hulks featuring the original She-Hulk and Lyra, Banner's future daughter, and Son of Hulk which was originally about Skaar but then dealt with Hiro-Kala, another son of Banners who became a villain and was defeated in IHs's "Dark son" storyline.

Perhaps the Savage Hulk returns? The Green Scar/current Hulk incarnation, I think, has been watered down too much since Planet Hulk. The crushed glasses do seem to state that the Banner persona might get removed from the book again.


As for speculation regarding the death of the Hulk, they sort of already did that in the Red Hulk storyline by depowering Banner.
 
Whofan said:
There were recently some other Hulk titles and mini-series, such as the She-Hulks featuring the original She-Hulk and Lyra, Banner's future daughter, and Son of Hulk which was originally about Skaar but then dealt with Hiro-Kala, another son of Banners who became a villain and was defeated in IHs's "Dark son" storyline.
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Was She-Hulks a mini?
I got the first 3 issues but lost track of it or my LCS sold out of it. It was really a whim purchase, I haven't missed it that much.
 
I haven't followed any comics since the mid-90's, around the time the gray changed back to green.

What I read in these threads makes me a little relieved I stopped.
 
I'm surprised that no one is talking about Greg Pak ending his run...he has done some great things like "Planet Hulk" and to a lesser degree "World War Hulk" and then has handled the current Hulk family books post Jeph Loeb. I credit him with bringing me back to Hulk and blame Jeph Loeb for taking me back out again.
 
I liked it when Hiro from Heroes had had his mind regressed to a 12 year old, and he said that Red Hulk was wrong and stupid while invading a comic book store.

:)

Greg started strong but his own work has been getting worse and worse. The lads just run out of steam and story.
 
^ Agreed. I think it was a mistake to remove him from the book after "World War Hulk" and do all this Red Hulks business.
 
Admiral_Young said:
I'm surprised that no one is talking about Greg Pak ending his run...he has done some great things like "Planet Hulk" and to a lesser degree "World War Hulk" and then has handled the current Hulk family books post Jeph Loeb. I credit him with bringing me back to Hulk and blame Jeph Loeb for taking me back out again.
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Everyone's too busy coming into the thread to tell us they don't read the book and why comics are failing.

Thanks for the info guys, you're really helping along the topic... :rolleyes:

AS FOR THE BOOK, it's probably just ending its Hulks (plural!) status. Pak was about bring the family together and I think he's going to downsize it a bit. Probably not completely, but enough that the next book to be relaunched will be able to focus more on the singular Hulk (hence the reboot and title change)

I was starting to tire of the way Pak wrote Banner (downright hate it, actually) and I'm not TOO fond of the family, so I'm looking forward to both, reading the end and getting on with something new.

Adjectiveless Hulk, though, is fantastic. Parker's doing awesome stuff with Red Hulk.

Okay, now people can come back to the thread to ignore the Hulk and talk about why they hate comics.
 
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