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In the JJ-verse: is it time for an overt Star Wars shout-out?

If a JJ-Trek character off-handedly referenced "Star Wars"...

  • I'd be cool with it. Could be a neat humor moment.

    Votes: 13 31.0%
  • Ugh, no. Bad enough that JJ-Trek is so Wars-y as is.

    Votes: 22 52.4%
  • Balance has been brought to the Force - my feelings are neutral.

    Votes: 7 16.7%

  • Total voters
    42
SULU: I don't like sand. It's coarse and gets everywhere. It's not smooth... like you.

RAND: Go away.

SULU: Going away.
 
Pike: No more training do you require. Already know you, that which you need.

Kirk: Then I am a Captain.

Pike: No. Not yet. One thing remains. Nero. You must confront Nero. Then, only then, a Captain will you be. And confront him you will.
 
I don't know that I'd consider "Punch it!" specific enough to credit as a Star Wars "reference." Sure, Han Solo says it memorably, but it's rather obscure and using the statement in that context doesn't solely originate from the Star Wars films.
By the same token, the bit Jarod mentioned upthread about the Enterprise's arrival at the final showdown:

And the scene where the Enterprise suddenly appears to save Spock from the missiles was pretty much staged like the Falcon's sudden appearance during the battle of Yavin.

Maybe that scene is staged just so as a conscious nod to Star Wars--I'm just fine with it if it is--but the Millennium Falcon's sudden appearance in that movie was really nothing far removed from what happened in the last reel of countless old Saturday-matinee Westerns when the US Cavalry rides over the hill, just in the nick of time, to save the day (and our hero.) It's "the good guys to the rescue" - it's a trope, not anything which originated with Lucas and Star Wars.

Besides...
James T. Kirk said:
Whatever happens, Mister Sulu, if you think
you have the tactical advantage, you fire on
that ship, even if we're still on board. That's
an order.
...they were only following orders given earlier in the movie. ;)


And there's also:

Uhura said:
I will be monitoring your frequency.


Does anyone have a problem with Obi Wan channeling Spock in The Immunity Syndrome when Aderaan is destroyed??

Of course not. It's called homage. Everyone who loves a good story has done it. Songwriters do it. Novelists do it. Filmmakers do it. It's really not a big fucking deal.
 
... Does anyone have a problem with Obi Wan channeling Spock in The Immunity Syndrome when Aderaan is destroyed??

Of course not. It's called homage. Everyone who loves a good story has done it. Songwriters do it. Novelists do it. Filmmakers do it. It's really not a big fucking deal.

It would only be a large copulation contract if it was too obvious or happened too regularly, in my opinion. However I seldom spot things that are out of place anyway. They would have had to really rub my nose in it: maybe like installing a brewery where the engine room should have been. Now that would have been funny, I almost wish they'd done it! Perhaps the next movie. :)

Mind you, if Star Trek is or was considered to be a possible future for the human race (perhaps it diverged a little in the mid nineties), then there would be nothing out of place for Kirk to wonder what Hans Solo would do in situation X etc. Or have I missed something?

I mean, if a certain android should be seen in a debris field it must have been a model made by a Star Wars fan on one of the doom ships, right?
 
It's called homage.
Bingo.

Everyone who loves a good story has done it. Songwriters do it. Novelists do it. Filmmakers do it.
And science fiction-fantasy films in the years since Lucas and Spielberg became big names have been rife with homages like these. Such references have become de rigeur--in dialogue, in visuals, in plot elements, even in sound effects--the more you can squeeze in, the better. It's an expected thing in genre films, and it would have been pretty damned irregular if such things hadn't been present in Star Trek.

It's really not a big fucking deal.

With due respect to everything else you said, THIS is the tidbit many of the people in this thread should really embrace, the concept they should recognize.
There's that, too.
 
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