In DS9 did Jean Luc Picard meet Benjamin Sisco
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Re: In DS9 did Jean Luc Picard meet Benjamin SISKO
I think you get that impression anyway from Emissary. After all, during their last exchange, Picard was ready to call out Sisko on his behavior until Sisko went "Whoa whoa whoa, you're right and I've changed my mind."
Also, in hindsight: how creepy/surreal is it to see Locutus as a Prophet?
I think you get that impression anyway from Emissary. After all, during their last exchange, Picard was ready to call out Sisko on his behavior until Sisko went "Whoa whoa whoa, you're right and I've changed my mind."
Also, in hindsight: how creepy/surreal is it to see Locutus as a Prophet?
...or have them miniaturized and standing on each shoulder...
Sisko: I don't know what to do...
Lil' Locutus: Assimilate 'im! Do it! Do it now!
Lil' Picard: Now, we don't know for sure he's responsible. We should have a meeting and...
Sisko: Gawd, I need an asprin.
I wanted to NAIL Sisko with a chair after that scene
or any object I could get a hold of I figured Sisko didn't know the full story. I forgave him.
Seeing how the point of "Emissary" was that Sisko was pretty much a man who couldn't let go of his loss and was a jerk because of it until the Prophets gave him a massive therapy session, and he realized he was being a jerk, I forgave him.
Why would it make you dislike Picard more? He had no control of his actions while he was a Borg Drone. Sure its easy to see why Sisko would be upset but IMO his anger should have been with the Borg not with Picard.
I could be wrong since I've hardly seen any of Voyager and therefore don't know too much about it (I've only seen a few episodes and hated all of them, except the Q ones), but I think the basic answer is that the Borg were in the same part of the galaxy as Voyager during most of DS9's run. I believe "First Contact" is the one time during DS9's run that the Borg were in their area. That's the 'fictional' reason. I think the reason in reality is that the people in charge of Star Trek at the time wanted to make the Borg a recurring villain on Voyager and let other people (i.e. the Cardassians, the Dominion) be the recurring villains on DS9.
I think it's for the best that things worked out this way. Obviously it was tempting for Star Trek writers to use the Borg a lot after how great they were in "Q Who", "The Best of Both Worlds", and "I, Borg", but in my opinion, they just got more watered down, stale, and uninteresting in every appearance after those (with the exception of "First Contact").
I hear Voyager also took away a lot of their appeal by using them too much and making them way more vulnerable than they ever should be (and I also saw the Enterprise episode that was SHAMEFUL in its exploitation of the Borg, completely destroying their original mystique), so I'm glad DS9 steered clear of that route and did not contribute to the character assissination of the Borg happening in the other shows.
That's pretty much it. The Borg were basically Voyager's territory, and the Dominion was DS9's, though both were mentioned by the other show, and I think Jem H'Dar were shown briefly in a holodeck simulation on Voyager.
Because the scenes with Picard in Emmissary just serve to reinforce what an effete, pompous and condescending twit he is and was in TNG.
Great, one of those "Picard wasn't a Kirk clone so he sucks" types...
Ah the wonder of watching the exact same show but having the extreme opposite opinion.
Eh, I liked Sisko more as the story went on. Didn't like him that much to start with. I did like the father/son relationship (with his son and his own father), but it was the other cast I liked more.
Picard though, I thought he was one of the best Trek characters ever since S1 of TNG.
Picard though, I thought he was one of the best Trek characters ever since S1 of TNG.
After watching Sisko develop as the series went on and then going back to Season 1, I could really understand why Sisko was going through what he went though. I think of all the captains, Sisko was the best developed, but Stewart was the best actor for the captain role. Personally, I think the two compliment each other quite well in thier differences.
We were experiencing something rare for a Star Trek series: a character who experiences an irrational emotion and just goes with it anyway. Characters from TNG too often experienced "appropriate" emotions, or had enough self-knowledge and ludicrously healthy coping skills that they were able to quickly diagnose their own psychological blind spots with ease (and a little help from the ship's counsellor).
Sisko was just being your typical complicated human being, so filled with rage and hopelessness that (justifiably or not) Picard was a perfectly natural target. Hating the Borg and anyone even vaguely associated with them was convenient because Sisko was completely unprepared to deal with his grief over losing his wife. Calmly explaining this perfectly logical fact wouldn't do any good, just like with real people.
Once his encounter with the Prophets forced Sisko to confront that grief, Sisko was later able to see the irrationality of his anger with Picard. IIRC, there was a coda between Picard and Sisko where Picard told Sisko "Good luck Commander", and Sisko replied "You too, sir". Something like that. The subtext of that scene is that both men saw in each other a shared loss because of the Borg. Sisko was able to forgive Picard and empathize with his loss.
