Improving Season 7

[Rush Limborg]

But again, that results in presumptions. If one doesn't believe there is any higher power, the assumption is, therefore, that any clams to the contrary are wrong. Thus, when one subscribing to that viewpoint encounters something like the Bajoran belief in the Prophets...they will therefore presume to dismiss such belief.

If you believe "A" to be true, you therefore presume "non-A" to not be true.

 

[sonak]

But again, that results in presumptions. If one doesn't believe there is any higher power, the assumption is, therefore, that any clams to the contrary are wrong. Thus, when one subscribing to that viewpoint encounters something like the Bajoran belief in the Prophets...they will therefore presume to dismiss such belief.

If you believe "A" to be true, you therefore presume "non-A" to not be true.

yeah, I guess I can see your point. But saying "I don't think there's a God" isn't exactly a harshly dogmatic statement.

 

[Lt. Beatings]

For those who might not have enjoyed the final season of DS9, what do you think would have made the season better for you to watch? No Red-Eye Dukat? Less Ezri-Worf-Bashir melodrama? No more holosuite episodes? Less standalone episodes and more arc-driven episodes outside of the Final Chapter arc?

Ezri took up too much time with her high school crap. Even in the heat of battle she was making eyes with bashir.

Also no interest in Dukat being a Bajoran. I skipped most of that.

 

[Rush Limborg]

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Ezri took up too much time with her high school crap. Even in the heat of battle she was making eyes with Bashir.

If by "making eyes", you mean meeting gazes...it's a natural expression of mutual support.

Decker and Ilia locked eyes in ST:TMP, in the wormhole sequence. In "Contagion" (TNG), Deanna briefly held Riker's hand when is seemed like the Romulans were going to blast the Enterprise into oblivion.

Heck--Kirk and Rand actually hugged in "Balance Of Terror" (TOS).

 

[Lt. Beatings]

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Ezri took up too much time with her high school crap. Even in the heat of battle she was making eyes with Bashir.

If by "making eyes", you mean meeting gazes...it's a natural expression of mutual support

Nah I meant the pre-coital awkwardness they had.

 

[Josie]

I liked Vic...and, along with a Season 8 extension, wish we'd have MORE of him.

Still, I see the "undermined Ezri" point. Still, I should point out that it was Ezri who manipulated Vic into forcing Nog into actual recovery.


And, as a religious man myself...I highly enjoyed the exploration of faiths in DS9.

Ezri did not directly use her Starfleet training to help Nog, so it did undermine her and made her look even more flaky and useless. Vic was supposed to be a supporting character, not hog a main character's character development.

Well if I wanted my religion fix I would've watched 7th heaven. The ham-fisted religious fan-wank is not what I wanted in a star trek.

After a pretty uneven start (the Bajoran blockade was a nonsensical detour in the first couple of episodes) I always thought season 7 turned out pretty good.

I have to say though I also get a little tired of people complaining about every episode not being about the war. It seems to me some people wanted DS9 to be like a dodgy Saturday morning cartoon in its final season - nothing but space ship battles.

And I keep coming across the frankly bizarre suggestion that during times of war people only concentrate on fighting. Of course, the idea that once war is declared everybody becomes sober and celibate is just ridiculous and we've seen time and time again that - if anything - the opposite is true.

And that's especially true for those people who are doing the actual fighting ...

Why create a war if you have no intention to make it the main consecutive storyline? Running off the Holodeck, meeting cadets, crooning with holograms, religious nuts just detract from the war and seriously undermines the severity of war. It was a joke.

After a pretty uneven start (the Bajoran blockade was a nonsensical detour in the first couple of episodes) I always thought season 7 turned out pretty good.

I have to say though I also get a little tired of people complaining about every episode not being about the war. It seems to me some people wanted DS9 to be like a dodgy Saturday morning cartoon in its final season - nothing but space ship battles.

And I keep coming across the frankly bizarre suggestion that during times of war people only concentrate on fighting. Of course, the idea that once war is declared everybody becomes sober and celibate is just ridiculous and we've seen time and time again that - if anything - the opposite is true.

And that's especially true for those people who are doing the actual fighting ...

except that they made it so that DS9 was on the front line of the war. It wasn't like they were on a station somewhere near Earth, they were right in the thick of things. With that, it does kind of strain credibility that they'd have time for holo-shenanigans like in "badda-bing, badda-bang," and "TMOTTH."

Exactly. It was lazy and sloppy writing. The writers would have rather played with Vic than show all the aspects of the Federation's largest war.