I'm with Rich Evans. ST:TMP is the best Star Trek movie. Here's my brief review.

[FredH]

TMP was absolutely a different beast from the more fist-fighty TOS, but to me that was a feature. Even at the age of ten, it felt more “grown-up” — and unlike most of the other ten-year-olds around me who saw it, I liked that.

(And I still feel the “Director’s Cut” is only cosmetically different, and only slightly so at that; the overall feel is unchanged.)

 

[Saul]

I've definitely re-evaluated TMP. I wouldn't say it's the best but I would say it's the most Star Treky film of the bunch. It's basically the closest to what TOS was.

he must be a heavy drinker or a masochist.

The poor man is a teetotaller.

 

[Pariah Carey]

I still remember seeing it for the first time as a kid, I couldn't have been more than 8 and obviously I had no idea what the hell was going on, but I do remember thoroughly enjoying the visuals and being freaked the fucked out by the bald lady with a weird glowy thing on her throat.

It's a great film, for all its flaws.

 

[Crisp Conditions]

Not the Richard Evans who appeared in "Patterns of Force" then.

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[Sgt. Sacrament]

I don't know that I'd say ST:TMP is the best, but it is absolutely my favorite ST film. Especially the recent 4K Director's Edition. I've heard it said that "the film is a turd, but I love that turd." I could put it in right now and just watch the whole thing again and thoroughly enjoy it. Not enough time tonight, but I think I will at lunch tomorrow. And Goldsmith's score is my favorite film score of all time, I never tire of listening to it, I always feel like I hear new things.

ST:TMP is also the only one that IMO truly feels like a big-time, serious, wanna-be-epic, actual motion picture or film, something that is truly 'cinematic.'

Rich Evans is amazing.

The episode of RLM from a few years ago where Mike explains that he's been a huge geeky Star Trek fan all of his life, but feels that modern Trek has left him behind and has so mangled the legacy of Star Trek that it's no longer Trek, and he realizes that he has to just bid it farewell was heartbreaking. Producers can make whatever they want, that's their job, I just wish they could watch that video and realize what they have done to some long time fans, the kind of fans who kept Star Trek alive for decades, the kind who kept it alive for modern Trek to even come along at all.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

, I just wish they could watch that video and realize what they have done to some long time fans, the kind of fans who kept Star Trek alive for decades, the kind who kept it alive for modern Trek to even come along at all.

I think fans and producers do well to not treat things as sacred. This TOS fan has found enjoyment in newer Trek, as well as older Trek.

Fans hated TNG at first but now it's a classic. TWOK had death threats sent to Bennett and Meyer yet now it's considered the top most film on many lists.

There's a huge variety of fans and holding to one way is very quick way to stagnate and not gain new viewers. And that's as important as pleasing the older viewers.

 

[Set Harth]

TWOK had death threats sent to Bennett and Meyer

That's nuts. What were they mad about, Spock?

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

That's nuts. What were they mad about, Spock?

Yes. Something to the effect of, "you kill Spock; we kill you." Supposedly the leak of Spock's death was by Roddenberry.

 

[FredH]

The episode of RLM from a few years ago where Mike explains that he's been a huge geeky Star Trek fan all of his life, but feels that modern Trek has left him behind and has so mangled the legacy of Star Trek that it's no longer Trek, and he realizes that he has to just bid it farewell was heartbreaking. Producers can make whatever they want, that's their job, I just wish they could watch that video and realize what they have done to some long time fans, the kind of fans who kept Star Trek alive for decades, the kind who kept it alive for modern Trek to even come along at all.

See, I love TMP for all the reasons you stated— and I love DISCO and PIC, which I see as very much continuing the tradition, and see no contradiction. (Not S31 and Scouts, of course, but I see those as outliers.).

 

[Set Harth]

Something to the effect of, "you kill Spock; we kill you."

...really?

 

[mb22]

I don't know about death threats. I know there were threats of boycotts, which of course didn't materialize.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

I don't know about death threats. I know there were threats of boycotts, which of course didn't materialize.

It was reported by a couple of production team members. Here's a link to a Star Trek magazine article. The section titled "A dangerous story" has him discussing the death threat.

https://www.brooklineconnection.com/history/Personalities/images/StarTrekMag.pdf