Spoilers I'm late and I just started Supergirl

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  1. Gingerbread Demon

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    Yeah Cat leaves at the end of season 2 I believe. It is interesting at the very end of season 1 she used Kara instead of Kiera in one of her closing scenes. I think she knows her secret.
     
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    Having just hit season 2 of Lois and Clark the New Adventures of Superman, I am experiencing exactly the same problem.
     
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    I loved the first three seasons, and I felt that as long as it was a CBS show, it was pretty great. When it moved to the CW and started relying more on crossovers with storylines that could only be finished on other shows, that's when I checked out. I was watching via Netflix at the time, which didn't have access to the other shows.
     
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    Brenda Strong is great as the Luthor matriarch
     
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    Yes, she is. One thing the Arrowverse shows almost always get right is casting, from the regulars right down to recurring and guest appearances. (I should never have doubted them when they announced Jon Cryer as Lex.)
     
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    Flockhart chose not to move when Supergirl was picked up by the CW and filming switched locations to Vancouver.
     
  7. Gingerbread Demon

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    The only thing that has irked me a little to be honest is the Alex is gay story which felt like writers forced that into the show, or I read it wrong but it just felt like it had come from nowhere almost. And both Katie MGrath and Brenda Strong are fucking brilliant
     
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    Lena and Kara seem like they are in love and they are moments from jumping on top of each other because of the intensity of their of their platonic friendship.

    But CBS/CW invented Alex, so she was almost the only one who they could switch a trip on.

    Win has the same name as his daddy, The Toyman, so you could argue that he is his dad from a branding perspective.

    Alex gets better once she just is gay, rather than preaching about her revelation.
     
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    I really do hope so..... I am at the episode just after they do their first proper kiss
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    Maggie Sawyer is an oldschool character from Superman comics, who was Batwoman's love interest in the early 2000s, in the comics. Maggie Sawyer was the Sheriff for Smallville in the TV show Smallville, so I can only assume that she was the tip of a homosexual iceberg floating on the periphery of the WB mid 2000s programming.
     
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    I think Alex is pretty kick ass as a character goes but can see what you mean about preaching. I like her character.

    My favourites so far are

    Cat Grant
    Lena Luthor
    Supergirl
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    James Olsen
     
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    I didn’t perceive any preaching in Alex’s story of self-discovery. I thought it was very well-handled.

    There were certainly some extremely toxic viewers who were displeased, however, including one who was very vocal on this BBS before blessedly being shown the door.
    Maggie did appear on Smallville, but she was a Metropolis cop, not the Smallville Sheriff.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    Ruminate is a better word?

    It just seemed like she was flagellating herself for half a season over whether she'd live a lie or not.

    The show does preach, but the message is good, and the audience is already in line.

    Compare what happened on Reddit with The Boys.

    Thousands of Alpha Bros who did not understand that they had been cheering and loving a Super Villain from 4 years, and felt humiliated that such a cruel joke had been played on them.

    On Supergirl the audience seemed to be in lock step with Liberalism, that LGBT rights and Feminism shouldn't be a question, and inside that CW bubble, probably with a few exceptions, everything in the world was good.
     
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    Oh, Supergirl definitely does preach sometimes, though as you note, the sermon’s a positive one. I just don’t think Alex’s journey was an example of the show preaching. I found it honest and moving, and motivated entirely by character.
     
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    There are horror stories about coming out.

    Alex imagined a 1950s era disinheritance, and probably being lynched... But all she got was hugs, praise and approval.

    There was no bad out come to her dicision tree, unless Jerimiah was a huge homophobe behind closed doors, and even so, by the time she wanted to come out, he was gone.
     
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    In my last run of this I just watched The Darkest Hour where they find the real Hank and he's a nasty one isn't he? Do they ever find Alex's actual dad or have I missed a scene?
     
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    As I recall, Kara did initially react with a little surprise and uncertainty when Alex told her, which I thought was a good choice by the writers. I remember a few objections at the time that Kara didn't immediately launch into all the Approved Things to Say, but it felt believably human to me that she stumbled a little at this unexpected revelation from her sister and closest friend.

    Of course, she found her footing quickly and proceeded to support Alex categorically and unconditionally, which was also the right choice, by both the character and the writers.
     
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    I agree. Kara's reaction seems perfectly believable and I guess that's how I would kind of react if a sibling said that to me but I'd hop onboard once I got my footing too with the revelation.
     
  19. Guy Gardener

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    Kara is an alien from a post sex planet.

    Depending on the lore you take to heart.

    She may have never met a heterosexual before she came to Earth.
     
  20. Gingerbread Demon

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    Valid point, there's no one single lore to her or Superman. For all we know Krytonians are open to sex with anyone that they are attracted to.
     
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