I'm guessing Lindelof is out for future sequels

[Sector 7]

Is this one of those crap threads?

Without a doubt.

It started out that way, but the responses made it worth reading.

So many cadets and ensigns these days.

"Young minds, fresh ideas." - James Tiberius Kirk

Some ideas may not be worthwhile, but overall new blood is good for the franchise and good for TrekBBS.

 

[Phily B]

Things that make ya go hmmmm

1. Into Darkness earned $70 million it's opening weekend. Star Trek earned $75 million.

2. Industry analysts and the studio expected $90-$100 million, so it's far short of expectations.

3. Studios DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT expect sequels to earn less than their predecessors, especially when the budget of the sequel is $40 million more than the original. Look no further than Spiderman 2, The Dark Knight, The Matrix Reloaded, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, etc. Iron Man 2 was slightly below Iron Man ($6 million less) but Iron Man 3 has already exceeded both films.

4. Into Darkness will likely earn its $190 million dollar budget back domestically (minus marketing, of course) but it won't be a major earner and will certainly have a disappointing take. Generally speaking, a film begins to decline in its second week of release by 50%. Given that next weekend is a 3 day holiday, it's likely that Star Trek will only see a modest loss of maybe 30%-40%, so the total would be around $135 million or so in week two (and I'm being optimistic).

By week three, the domestic gross would likely be around $20 million and by week four, all bets are off because The Man of Steel is released and it will get crushed. $10 million in week four would be huge.

So for the sake of guessing, that puts the film at the following:

Week 1: $85 million
Week 2: $50 million ($135)
Week 3: $20 million ($155)
Week 4: $10 million ($165).

By the end of an 8 week run, it should probably reach $190 million but that isn't exactly a given, especially when considering the tepid response the film received this weekend and the other choices available in Iron Man 3, Man of Steel, in a addition to Monsters University and World War Z the weekend of June 18th.

If it hasn't hit its budget by the end of June, it's dead in the water.

What about the overseas take? That doesn't count for anything?

Yeah, it counts but with this film, foreign is already at $80 million and it was released earlier than the U.S. If the film does recoup its $190 million dollar budget domestically, the additional $80-$100 million it does internationally basically covers the cost of worldwide marketing, with a little profit thrown in.

Given that actors, producers and directors are usually given some backend (depending on the final numbers, of course), this film will be lucky to break even with its theatrical release.

Could you provide links to the sources of these? That's standard, when quoting blocks of text in support of whichever point is being made or illustrated.

He is just copy and pasting from some guy on a forum somewhere.

 

[Sector 7]

JJ Abrams here, everything is under control. We are working hard to make Trek 3 hits all audiences and thrills you as the first did.

Your friend.

JJ.

I think JJ Abrams knows how to write better sentences.

 

[AbramsIsSatan]

He is just copy and pasting from some guy on a forum somewhere.

Duh. I just wish to discuss these issues with a larger Trek audience.

Enjoy. Especially if you loathe that pinhead Lindelof!

 

[M'Sharak]

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Could you provide links to the sources of these? That's standard, when quoting blocks of text in support of whichever point is being made or illustrated.

He is just copy and pasting from some guy on a forum somewhere.

Then I imagine linking to the sources from which they were copied ought to be no difficulty at all for him. Could be accomplished in a matter of seconds.

 

[sj4iy]

Eh, I see nothing but bad timing. From Box Office Mojo as of today:

"...the movie has to-date earned $84.1 million. In comparison, 2009's Star Trek grossed $75.2 million for the weekend, and $86.7 million through its first four-and-a-half days."

An entire $2 million dollar difference, and it's performed better overseas this time. ST09 didn't have to compete with the biggest blockbuster of the year so far, Ironman 3. This movie also doesn't use 3D like the other blockbuster hits have been- it was never made for 3D, and only tacked on at the end at the insistance of the studio. I won't worry until the studios think there's absolutely no way to recoup their costs from another film; and as we've seen, even really crappy movies get sequels (really?? Atlas Shrugged??). But hey, people like jumping the gun and declaring a movie horrible and dead to stir up trouble- it really worked for The Hobbit, which grossed over $1billion at the box office worldwide.

 

[Phily B]

Paramount will consider all this and imo we'll get the sequel with a similar budget. It'll probably get to 200m (low) -250m (high).

 

[AbramsIsSatan]

Could you provide links to the sources of these? That's standard, when quoting blocks of text in support of whichever point is being made or illustrated.

He is just copy and pasting from some guy on a forum somewhere.

Then I imagine linking to the sources from which they were copied ought to be no difficulty at all for him. Could be accomplished in a matter of seconds.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=9693497&postcount=663

 

[Kruezerman]

JJ Abrams here, everything is under control. We are working hard to make Trek 3 hits all audiences and thrills you as the first did.

Your friend.

JJ.

Sir, we love your work! Especially by letting George Takei be a Jedi!

 

[Sector 7]

^I saw STID in 3D today. It was well worth it!

EDIT: in response to sj4iy.

 

[Kruezerman]

^I saw STID in 3D today. It was well worth it!

EDIT: in response to sj4iy.

Hey I looked it too man!

 

[sj4iy]

^I saw STID in 3D today. It was well worth it!

EDIT: in response to sj4iy.

Awesome More people like you have to take up the slack for people like me, who can't really deal with 3D (gives me a headache). The only movie I could watch in 3D without problems was the high frame rate version of The Hobbit, because it didn't have the blurring action. Oh, well. I'm happy as long as there's a 3D movie

 

[T'Bonz]

I've seen enough.

Bad enough someone regs with that name and I'm watching it closely.

Then our usuals take the bait. Whether this guy is legit or not, I don't know. If he's a troll, the stupidity is in feeding him. Is it so had to mod notify and move on?

The dual who was cute and came in, banned, as was the primary account of the dual creator.

No more of this crap in here. No more of this thread.