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I'm Appreciating the Third Season More!

Red Ranger

Admiral
In Memoriam
People,

I know that many fans hate the third season, despite the fact there are some real gems there like Day of the Dove and The Tholian Web. However, I have recently rediscovered a couple of eps I didn't like many years ago, and I actually like them better now that I'm older.

I've been watching TOS online and decided to give some eps another chance, eps I haven't seen literally in decades! For example, I watched Gem and I found myself intrigued with its moody, dark story. The idea of McCoy sacrificing himself for his friends deepened the sense of friendship between these three "brothers in space" -- Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

I also found the minimalist set deepened the aura of mystery of the Vians and their purpose. I'm sure the set was like that for budgetary reasons, but it was a choice that made the ep more effective, IMO.

I also liked Kathryn Hayes' performance, as it resembled a Marcel Marceau impression, and I mean that in a good way.

Then, two days ago, I watched Is There In Truth No Beauty and I liked it much better. I enjoyed Diana Muldaur's performance of the enigmatic Dr. Miranda Jones, whose fanatical devotion to the Medusan ambassador Kollos was quite striking, especially her jealousy of Spock.

In fact, there is quite a twisted tone to this ep, as it was obvious nearly all the men were quite taken with Miranda, Kirk and McCoy in particular, in addition to her spurned lover Marvik. But even Spock seemed swept up by her devotion to Kollos and her mission.

How Kirk confronts her with brutal honesty to save his friend I also found fascinating. He's quite cruel in that scene, a bit of a departure for Kirk, but I guess he acted that way to save his dear comrade and friend.

I feel there is a strange, quirky tone to many of the third season eps, unlike the tone of the first two seasons. I think the odd music in the eps I mentioned above is what also sets them apart.

Makes you wonder what could have been if the Enterprise had its actual five-year mission.

Red Ranger
 
There are some good moments in the third season. We only have our imagination now to speculate what could've happened in the last two years...
 
Third season is often critized for its shortcomings...simple stories, characters being out-of-character, especially Spock. I'm now finding that maybe the 3rd season producers and writers did the right things for the wrong reason. Especially concerning Spock. It was in a lot of 3rd season stories where he experienced more emotions (The Enterprise Incident, All Our Yesterdays, Plato's Stepchildren, etc.). Although he found some hidden comfort in his friendships with Kirk and McCoy, Spock still didn't have the life experience behind him to help him when he finally was put in situations to deal with it. Once in a while in the past like "This Side of Paradise" or "Amok Time" he probably could deal with a single bout. But the3rd year probably run him through the wringer and caused a lot of pain for him...to the point that he finally returned to Vulcan to eradicate those feelings in STTMP.
 
People,

I know that many fans hate the third season, despite the fact there are some real gems there like Day of the Dove and The Tholian Web. However, I have recently rediscovered a couple of eps I didn't like many years ago, and I actually like them better now that I'm older.

I've been watching TOS online and decided to give some eps another chance, eps I haven't seen literally in decades! For example, I watched Gem and I found myself intrigued with its moody, dark story. The idea of McCoy sacrificing himself for his friends deepened the sense of friendship between these three "brothers in space" -- Kirk, Spock and McCoy.

I also found the minimalist set deepened the aura of mystery of the Vians and their purpose. I'm sure the set was like that for budgetary reasons, but it was a choice that made the ep more effective, IMO.

I also liked Kathryn Hayes' performance, as it resembled a Marcel Marceau impression, and I mean that in a good way.

Then, two days ago, I watched Is There In Truth No Beauty and I liked it much better. I enjoyed Diana Muldaur's performance of the enigmatic Dr. Miranda Jones, whose fanatical devotion to the Medusan ambassador Kollos was quite striking, especially her jealousy of Spock.

In fact, there is quite a twisted tone to this ep, as it was obvious nearly all the men were quite taken with Miranda, Kirk and McCoy in particular, in addition to her spurned lover Marvik. But even Spock seemed swept up by her devotion to Kollos and her mission.

How Kirk confronts her with brutal honesty to save his friend I also found fascinating. He's quite cruel in that scene, a bit of a departure for Kirk, but I guess he acted that way to save his dear comrade and friend.

I feel there is a strange, quirky tone to many of the third season eps, unlike the tone of the first two seasons. I think the odd music in the eps I mentioned above is what also sets them apart.

Makes you wonder what could have been if the Enterprise had its actual five-year mission.

Red Ranger

I agree with you. I have all 3 seasons of TOS. The 3rd Season is weaker than the other two TOS seasons. Clunkers were not confined to the 3rd season. Anyone watch "I, Mudd" TOS Season 2?

If you were going to compare TOS Season 3 to all of the Star Trek series, it comes out pretty well. For instance, it could go toe to toe with any VOY season. VOY did have good episodes, but not a consistent season. The 3rd season would outrank TNG season 1&2 and even DS9 Seasons 1-3.

In addition to those excellent episodes you mentioned, there is "The Enterprise Incident"(on some polls this is ranked as one of the best), and "Plato's Stepchildren"(a ground breaking episode). So, there is more quality than dross in that season.
 
"Plato's Stepchildren"(a ground breaking episode).
Because it had Kirk kissing Uhura? Doesn't make it a good episode in my book.

But I agree, the third season of The Original Series is better than most people make it out to be. (It's certainly better than The Next Generation's unwatchable first season.) It contains some of my favorite episodes like All Our Yesterdays, The Enterprise Incident, The Empath, For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky and The Way To Eden (yeah, I love that episode).
 
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There were other aspects as well. It showed how those who perceive themselves as elite can exhibit the worst cruelty.
 
There were other aspects as well. It showed how those who perceive themselves as elite can exhibit the worst cruelty.

That is one of the few redeeming aspects of the ep. Perhaps it's disturbing to see our heroes used as helpless pawns. I know it was for me and that's one of the reasons I don't like it.

On a lighter note, my brother and I like to sing the "Bitter Dregs" song because it amuses us. And the part where Alexander the dwarf plans on killing them because he'll "cut them, they'll all get infected, and they'll all die" is unintentionlly funny.

Red Ranger
 
The Tholian Web is also very well done. I felt it also really added more feeling to the "three brothers in space."
 
The Tholian Web is also very well done. I felt it also really added more feeling to the "three brothers in space."

Wholeheartedly agree with you there about The Tholian Web. I also love how Spock and McCoy, with their new-found solidarity, pull the wool over Kirk's eyes about his last message (lying to him that they never saw it). -- RR
 
I have always had a fond spot for the much maligned 3rd season. But my reasoning is that I was (then) old enough to remember watching all of them for the first time. So the 3rd season was the majority of my first real impressionable Trek viewings (I have many remembered exceptions to the first 2 seasons, but in total). Also the move to Fridays nights enabled me to see all of them (I was allowed to stay up late on Fridays and didn't have to compete with anyone for TV channel choosing rights during that time slot).

My guiltiest pleasure is the oft maligned Savage Curtain. I suspect Shatner really liked it too, as he really wanted Rock Monsters in ST V?

I also always enjoyed Turnabout Intruder as it is the only episode I know of, where Kirk gives Kirk the Kirk Chop! (why the Kirk Chop has been overshadowed so completely by the Vulcan Neck Pinch is an injustice, and injustice I tell you!)

The mention of Way to Eden above actually triggered a finally successful analysis of my real problem with the entire episode... the singing/performing. Had that not been there, maybe just hinted at or alluded to, I'd probably have actually liked the episode.

While I will admit to a growing like for Spock's Brain, I still cannot stomach And The Children Shall Lead. And I still cannot put my finger on the real reason for that. But that's okay, The Alternative Factor still weirds me out for no discernable reason either.

And this is before touching on some of my favorites of the entire series!
 
While the third season is certainly not the best, it is not as bad as its reputation (kind of like Star Trek V). There were a few great episodes and several good episodes. Of course it also had some of the weakest episodes of any season. Still, overall, it holds up pretty well.
 
The mention of Way to Eden above actually triggered a finally successful analysis of my real problem with the entire episode... the singing/performing. Had that not been there, maybe just hinted at or alluded to, I'd probably have actually liked the episode.

I completely agree. It might have come off as a little preachy, but it still would have been an at least average episode if they had just dumped the singing and made them look a little less like hippies.

One of my favorite final season episodes is Requiem For Methuselah. The character of Flint is very compelling. I think the announcement that he is finally dying at the end of the episode was an excellent finale to all of the conflicted emotions he shows throughout the episode. And the conflict between his thousands of years of experience and knowledge and old age with Kirk's young, brash, heroic style is very intriguing.
 
The mention of Way to Eden above actually triggered a finally successful analysis of my real problem with the entire episode... the singing/performing. Had that not been there, maybe just hinted at or alluded to, I'd probably have actually liked the episode.
I completely agree. It might have come off as a little preachy, but it still would have been an at least average episode if they had just dumped the singing and made them look a little less like hippies.
Really? I don't fool myself, I know I'm in the minority, but I love the music of this episode. They are some quite interesting tunes. And while I know this is hardly outstanding storytelling I can enjoy the humor of it (if intentional or not).
 
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I've got to go with the majority on this one. Don't care for the music or the episode in general. I don't think it even works as campy unintentional humour, like Spock's Brain does. Must agree with you, though, that despite its admirable TV first, Plato's Stepchildren isn't all that good.

Always liked Is There No Truth in Beauty? It's hard not to love an episode with exchanges like this:
Spock: And Uhura, whose name means freedom. "She walks in beauty, like the night."
McCoy: That's not Spock.
Spock: Are you surprised that I've read Byron, Doctor?
McCoy: That's Spock!

Likewise, The Empath is a rather charming episode. For the World is Hollow (And I Have Touched the Sky) I always enjoyed because of it's rather effective, rare, and touching focus on McCoy. He doesn't headline many episodes and he gets the girl even less. I like The Lights of Zetar (though I can see why many wouldn't), All Our Yesterdays (penned by the same Star Trek librarian fan who wrote Is There No Truth in Beauty?), and this is glossing over the obvious good S3 episodes like The Enterprise Incident and The Tholian Web.
 
I've got to go with the majority on this one. Don't care for the music or the episode in general.
Conformist! :p

For the World is Hollow (And I Have Touched the Sky) I always enjoyed because of it's rather effective, rare, and touching focus on McCoy. He doesn't headline many episodes and he gets the girl even less.
Yeah, that's exactly the reason why I love this episode so much. Because for once it solely focuses on McCoy.

All Our Yesterdays (penned by the same Star Trek librarian fan who wrote Is There No Truth in Beauty?)
I once tried to find some information about Jean Lisette Aroeste, because of her script for All Our Yesterdays. But there's actually very little out there. She never wrote something else but her two Trek scripts.
 
The mention of Way to Eden above actually triggered a finally successful analysis of my real problem with the entire episode... the singing/performing. Had that not been there, maybe just hinted at or alluded to, I'd probably have actually liked the episode.
I completely agree. It might have come off as a little preachy, but it still would have been an at least average episode if they had just dumped the singing and made them look a little less like hippies.
Really? I don't fool myself, I know I'm in the minority, but I love the music of this episode. They are some quite interesting tunes. And while I know this is hardly outstanding storytelling I can enjoy the humor of it (if intentional or not).

Oh, I totally enjoy the music, but only for its unintentional comedy. And I'm of the opinion that unintentional comedy has no place on supposedly serious drama.
 
I completely agree. It might have come off as a little preachy, but it still would have been an at least average episode if they had just dumped the singing and made them look a little less like hippies.
Really? I don't fool myself, I know I'm in the minority, but I love the music of this episode. They are some quite interesting tunes. And while I know this is hardly outstanding storytelling I can enjoy the humor of it (if intentional or not).

Oh, I totally enjoy the music, but only for its unintentional comedy.

Oh alright, everybody SING! ...

Heading out to eden,
Yeah brother.
Heading out to eden,
Yeah brother.
No more trouble
In my body or my mind.
Goin' to live like a king
On whatever I find.
Eat all the fruit
And throw away the rind.
Yeah brother, yeah.

Steppin' out to eden,
Yeah brother.
Steppin' out to eden,
Yeah brother.
No more trouble
In my body or my mind.
Goin' to live like a king
On whatever I find.
Eat all the fruit
And throw away the rind.
Yeah brother.


C'mon, EVERYONE join in!...


I'm talkin' 'bout you,
I'm talkin' 'bout me.
Long time back when the galaxy was new.
Man found out what he had to do.
Found he had to eat and he found he had to drink,
And a long time later he found he had to think.
Yes, think.

[I'm standing here wondering -- What?]

If a man tells another man,
How to mow hay.
He piles up trouble for himself all day.
But all kinds of trouble will come to an end.
When a man tells another man,
Be my friend.
My friend.

[Well what's it going to be?]

There's a mile wide emptiness,
Between you and me.
Let's reach across it,
*On an even sea.*
Someone ought'a take a step,
One way or other.
Let's say goodbye,
Or let's say brother.

Brother!
Brother!
Hey out there...
Hey out there.
Hey out there...
Hey out there.
I see you...
I see you.
I see you...
I see you.

Let's get together and have some fun.

[I don't know how to do it,
But it's gotta be done.]
 
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