Ignoring Canon/Continuity
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Edoans and Triexians look alike, but Edoans are more...animated...
i also use characters/continuity from novels inc. New Frontier, IKS Gorkon, Titan, SCE, Vanguard and the DS9 post-finale books, but i *really* hate their Andorians-have-4-genders thing so i ignore that...
i also use characters/continuity from novels inc. New Frontier, IKS Gorkon, Titan, SCE, Vanguard and the DS9 post-finale books, but i *really* hate their Andorians-have-4-genders thing so i ignore that...
And I really like the four gender thing so that is solidly part of the canon of the stories I (try to) write. I count the recent novels because of their really good internal continuty, plus the fact that one of the series I have knockin around in my head is based on a Luna-class starship. All of the series and movies are part of the canon of my series because they are, like you know, canon. 
Aaron McGuire
Aaron McGuire
Actually, the Xindi arc had nothing to do with the TCW. The Sphere Builders were not a faction in said war which is why Future Guy shopped them to Archer and co. He didn't want Earth destroyed and the SB were losing in the future, so they caused the Xindi to try and destroy Earth. The Xindi arc was only linked into the TCW at the beginning and end.I've gotta say, I really hate time-travel; particularly the Temporal Cold War. I liked Enterprise, minus that (so there's seasons 1, 2, & 3)
So I tend to steer clear of that aspect of Trek canon.
I count everything on-screen as canon and much of what is in the books, except for the political stuff, which our United Trek has devolved from.
I count on screen as canon. Books and comics, I'm much more willing to keep or discard as I wish (There's no way I will ever accept the X-Men/Star Trek crossover as canon!). Obviously I don't use New Frontiers as canon; although there are elements of the DS9 relaunches I like and I believe that we have incorporated into United Trek in one way or another; and there are other bits and pieces I like to cherry pick such as elements in the Vanguard series--but I don't really regard the novels as canon.
I have two TNG timelines; the "Double Entendre" timeline starts immediately after the movie "Generations" assuming canon up until that point and the "Reasons of the Heart" timeline starts after "Insurrection" assuming canon up to that point. I also have a Voyager timeline, "Twist of Fate" using an original character, which starts early season 5 shortly after the episode "Night" assuming canon up to that point. After those points, all bets are off. One major piece of canon I tossed overboard was DS9's treatment of the Mirror Universe because it SUCKED! Instead I've taken my inspiration from Diane Duane's "Dark Mirror" mostly because I find a dark, Machiavellian version of Jean-Luc Picard to be too much of a delicious toy to pass up playing with.
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Granted, which is why I have no problem writing a short story related to the Xindi mission (I planning on writing it, anyway
).
Well the Watchtower-class station has kind of been recon'd into canon in the remastered version of The Ultimate Computer.
Aaron McGuire
I only write Original Series stories, so I never really brush up against any TNG-era stuff, and I certainly don't go out of my way to reference it. I completely ignore "Enterprise" and the First Contact version of the genesis of warp drive and first contact with Vulcan. I guess you could say my canon is the Original Series and the first four movies. As far as TFF and TUC go, I accept the events in them, but I ignore the obviously unredressed TNG set reuses (and that horrible shuttlebay set from TFF).
Additionally, when I write for Orion Press I don't use any of the characters they created, and try to avoid referencing or basing a story on any stories they've previously published. Nothing against those stories, I just like my work to be as accessible as possible.
Occasionally, I'll reference stuff from Diane Duane's TOS novels, but it's usually not too noticeable (although a Romulan story I wrote made heavy use of the Rihannsu stuff).
Additionally, when I write for Orion Press I don't use any of the characters they created, and try to avoid referencing or basing a story on any stories they've previously published. Nothing against those stories, I just like my work to be as accessible as possible.
Occasionally, I'll reference stuff from Diane Duane's TOS novels, but it's usually not too noticeable (although a Romulan story I wrote made heavy use of the Rihannsu stuff).
Actually, you're thinking of Diane Carey. I've never read Dreadnought or its sequel Battlestations (or was Battlestations the first book and Dreadnought the second? I can't remember). The first-person voice is too off-putting, especially since the person in question is a Mary Sue character. A lot of Carey's stuff contains the most incessant Kirk-worshiping you'll see outside the Shatnerverse.
Diane Duane, on the other hand, is an excellent writer who manages to inject quite a bit of "hard sci-fi" into her work. In addition to the Rihannsu books, she also wrote Spock's World, which is the definitive work on Vulcans.
Sorry to go off-topic there. *sheepish grin*
So this is really a discussion over Personal continuity, right? What we accept/see and what not?
Fascianating...
Fascianating...
(Face reddens) Oops. I like Diane Duane-loved Spock's World. Did she do the story about (Theresa) the undercover agent on Romulus and the Horta in Starfleet? If so, I see what you mean. Got confused by similar names. I read all of the time and sleep rarely these days so please forgive my befuddlement over the two. Diane CAREY wrote drivel so bad I was shocked it had actual, bound covers around it.-And I'd never call her canon, although I might put her in front of one.
Her latest work, Ship of the Line, about the maiden voyage of the Big E was ATROCIOUS at best, I managed 35 pages before putting it down again. Her work is too "Kirk is God, Kirk is Dreamy" and SotL had the dumbest premise this side of the neutral zone, Picard being taught how to be a captain by a Kirk hologram??????? Please spare me. Plus, she puts too much of her sailing stuff into her books./\ Sorry Jason- I respectfully agree to disagree-but only because I've read Dreadnought and Battlestations. Maybe her later stuff got better-but she lost me there.
I've read Best Destiny and that I thought was ok. The rest I have not read but will pick them up when I can.
I'm not sure what the official United Trek 'line' is as far as how canon the stories need to be, but ever since I've ended my SFB/SFC 'phase' of writing, I've tried to keep my writing as canon-friendly as possible. Although I do share the evidently popular opinion concerning Enterprise, Archer, the NX, and the Temporal Cold War.
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Here's how I'd resurrect Katherine Pulaski, (Timeline: 2375 & Beyond.)
Part of me is thinking she should take command of the Legacy-Class U.S.S. Mandela as a temporary c.o. as the Mandela's regular c.o. is following orders from a superior officer, elsewhere. (example: Captain Morgan Bateson, temporary c.o. of the U.S.S. Enterprise-E, "Ship Of The Line" by Diane Carey.)
Another route I'm thinking of taking is this.
Pulaski is somewhat harangued into assuming command of the U.S.S. Mandela by Starfleet Command as they're acutely short of qualified & deserving officers. Starfleet Command believes she's being under-utilized at the Phlox Institute, for someone who's served on the Federation's flagship, Enterprise-D as Chief Medical Officer. Captain Gold of the Saber-Class U.S.S. Da Vinci, Pulaski's prior c.o. aboard the Mediterranean-Class (Excelsior sub-class) USS Progress (NCC-34544), recommends her for the job, in addition to Jean Luc Picard & her favorite Riker boys: Kyle, Will & Tom.
The Titan's gone (temporarily) missing at this point & the Admiralty are pretty much crapping themselves. Kathrine's incensed, Kyle's infuriated & Tom's beside himself at the thought of losing Deanna all over again.
The situation becomes especially poignant, after the Mandela incurs several casualties during a post-Dominion War mission. The Mandela had been assigned to investigate, contain, or eliminate vigilante "minute-men" style Cardassian rogue operatives. Loyalists to the former Obsiddian Order, that are having an exponentially difficult time with Federation/Starfleet allies hanging around in their space.
Erika Benteen is offered the Executive Officer Position as she's been demoted to Lieutenant Commander after the Admiral Layton situation on Earth, having to grovel & profusely apologize her way back into the fleet. Knowing full well that Starfleet Command isn't exactly in a position to turn her away. She ends up on the U.S.S. Mandela as more or less a "out of sight, out of mind" solution, or "better the devil you know". If she fails to redeem herself & atone for her past decisions, she's profoundly aware she'll spend the rest of her life peeling potatoes in the New Zealand penal colony kitchen and / or scrubbing toilets.
Part of me is thinking she should take command of the Legacy-Class U.S.S. Mandela as a temporary c.o. as the Mandela's regular c.o. is following orders from a superior officer, elsewhere. (example: Captain Morgan Bateson, temporary c.o. of the U.S.S. Enterprise-E, "Ship Of The Line" by Diane Carey.)
Another route I'm thinking of taking is this.
Pulaski is somewhat harangued into assuming command of the U.S.S. Mandela by Starfleet Command as they're acutely short of qualified & deserving officers. Starfleet Command believes she's being under-utilized at the Phlox Institute, for someone who's served on the Federation's flagship, Enterprise-D as Chief Medical Officer. Captain Gold of the Saber-Class U.S.S. Da Vinci, Pulaski's prior c.o. aboard the Mediterranean-Class (Excelsior sub-class) USS Progress (NCC-34544), recommends her for the job, in addition to Jean Luc Picard & her favorite Riker boys: Kyle, Will & Tom.
The Titan's gone (temporarily) missing at this point & the Admiralty are pretty much crapping themselves. Kathrine's incensed, Kyle's infuriated & Tom's beside himself at the thought of losing Deanna all over again.
The situation becomes especially poignant, after the Mandela incurs several casualties during a post-Dominion War mission. The Mandela had been assigned to investigate, contain, or eliminate vigilante "minute-men" style Cardassian rogue operatives. Loyalists to the former Obsiddian Order, that are having an exponentially difficult time with Federation/Starfleet allies hanging around in their space.
Erika Benteen is offered the Executive Officer Position as she's been demoted to Lieutenant Commander after the Admiral Layton situation on Earth, having to grovel & profusely apologize her way back into the fleet. Knowing full well that Starfleet Command isn't exactly in a position to turn her away. She ends up on the U.S.S. Mandela as more or less a "out of sight, out of mind" solution, or "better the devil you know". If she fails to redeem herself & atone for her past decisions, she's profoundly aware she'll spend the rest of her life peeling potatoes in the New Zealand penal colony kitchen and / or scrubbing toilets.
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That's exactly what it is, I suppose. My stategy when I write is usually to just stay away from the productions I don't like (which is pretty easy, since I pretty much only write Original Series stories, anyway). I really don't feel the need to hit my reader over the head with my dislike for certain aspects of the mythos. In fact, one of my pet peeves is when an author goes out of his way to piss all over some aspect of Star Trek that he/she doesn't like.
