If you're a fan of Discovery, did you watch Game Of Thrones?

[seigezunt]

I was going to wait to watch GoT until I'd read at least the first book, but I never really could get into it. I don't do well with a novel that seems to introduce a new character every 1.7 pages. No offense to the fans, it just didn't seem that interesting, but I may catch the show sometime. But I'll be honest, there are quite a few other series on my binge list ahead of it.

 

[Lysian]

Why would I watch an inappropriate fantasy show? I'm not really into that, maybe when i'm older but I'd probably want to read the books first, I don't know! Discovery is different, it's STAR TREK!

 

[Orac]

I looked through the booklet in the dvd of season 1 of Game of Thrones and was put off by all the white faces. I like to see a little diversity in the TV shows I watch, is this show popular with white supremacists?

 

[fireproof78]

I looked through the booklet in the dvd of season 1 of Game of Thrones and was put off by all the white faces. I like to see a little diversity in the TV shows I watch, is this show popular with white supremacists?

 

[Orac]

All the main characters in Game of Thrones are caucasian. This makes it unappealing to me.

I like Discovery though.

 

[Hythlodeus]

they're not caucasian, they're westerosi

when it comes to Essos, the continent in the east of Westeros, or when it comes to the Summer Isles, an island chain south of Westeros and Essos, though, we have:
Xaro Xhoan Daxos

Missandei

Salladhor Saan

Grey Worm

and many more (Areo Hotah, Hizdahr zo Loraq and so forth)

but yeah, Westerosi people tend to have pale skin, which, of course is fitting for the setting

 

[Orac]

I stand corrected. 1 question though, were these characters introduced in the first season?

 

[fireproof78]

All the main characters in Game of Thrones are caucasian. This makes it unappealing to me.

I like Discovery though.

Yes, the rest of the comment made me go "What?"

 

[Cyrus]

Love GoT. The best TV series ever.

 

[Pindar]

I love Discovery, I do not watch GoT.

 

[jaime]

I stand corrected. 1 question though, were these characters introduced in the first season?

It’s an adaptation set in fictionalised European setting. Dudes had to get some travel in first. They start with fictional Middle East setting next to the European and Scandinavian ones, then send blonde dragon Girl further into fictional North Africa.
They couldn’t go in season one, because they were following the books.
Can’t believe I am sorta defending it, because frankly, I think the books and the fshow are both tripe created by a very...strange...man. I read the books to keep a promise, and every time I start paying attention to the show as an accidental viewer, I remember why I avoid the thing.
Oh..and to the fans...he’s never, ever, going to finish the books, you know that right?

Representation in fantasy is a tricky beast, it’s a thing with cultural roots thousands of years old, so sometimes, it’s just not gonna happen. Other times, it’s gonna happen really well.
I have still yet to see anything that did it as well as Guild Wars, and that’s a video game.

 

[Boomstick]

It’s an adaptation set in fictionalised European setting. Dudes had to get some travel in first. They start with fictional Middle East setting next to the European and Scandinavian ones, then send blonde dragon Girl further into fictional North Africa.
They couldn’t go in season one, because they were following the books.
Can’t believe I am sorta defending it, because frankly, I think the books and the fshow are both tripe created by a very...strange...man. I read the books to keep a promise, and every time I start paying attention to the show as an accidental viewer, I remember why I avoid the thing.
Oh..and to the fans...he’s never, ever, going to finish the books, you know that right?

Representation in fantasy is a tricky beast, it’s a thing with cultural roots thousands of years old, so sometimes, it’s just not gonna happen. Other times, it’s gonna happen really well.
I have still yet to see anything that did it as well as Guild Wars, and that’s a video game.

I agree it can be tricky, but having a bunch of half naked black slaves doting over a white girl, rambling some pseudo-mystic tripe and knowingly nodding their heads and saying "it is known" is insane noble savagery and orientalism and would be called out as straight up racism in any other context, but for some reason GoT gets a pass because it's set in Westeros. Just seems like bullshit to me.

 

[fireproof78]

I agree it can be tricky, but having a bunch of half naked black slaves doting over a white girl, rambling some pseudo-mystic tripe and knowingly nodding their heads and saying "it is known" is insane noble savagery and orientalism and would be called out as straight up racism in any other context, but for some reason GoT gets a pass because it's set in Westeros. Just seems like bullshit to me.

Even if it is reflective of human history and cultural development? I don't care for GoT but I do know that the production team tried to capture cultural development in a realistic manner.

 

[jaime]

I agree it can be tricky, but having a bunch of half naked black slaves doting over a white girl, rambling some pseudo-mystic tripe and knowingly nodding their heads and saying "it is known" is insane noble savagery and orientalism and would be called out as straight up racism in any other context, but for some reason GoT gets a pass because it's set in Westeros. Just seems like bullshit to me.

I would agree, if she didn’t literally come back from being on fire and have big fuck-off dragons. The hair is a TV only thing, book Dany loses it when she burns. She’s also not coming from a privileged position, since she was basically sold into slavery etc. Context is king. Aside from that, yeah, the argument is not entirely without merit, but the whole thing is beloved by certain groups so it gets a pass...it usually manages to be as misandrist as it is misogynist, as anti-gay as it is pro-gay, and no one ever gets a pass for their skin colour or any of that because they are usually too busy getting it ripped off, burnt off or eaten. It’s a problem that comes from our world, not the one in the narrative basically.
Again, I find myself defending a thing I find loathsome. I guess I just want it to be loathed for what it is.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Even if it is reflective of human history and cultural development? I don't care for GoT but I do know that the production team tried to capture cultural development in a realistic manner.

as did the author

 

[GeekUSACarl]

I agree it can be tricky, but having a bunch of half naked black slaves doting over a white girl, rambling some pseudo-mystic tripe and knowingly nodding their heads and saying "it is known" is insane noble savagery and orientalism and would be called out as straight up racism in any other context, but for some reason GoT gets a pass because it's set in Westeros. Just seems like bullshit to me.

IMO she is one of the worst characters on tv for me.

Yeahyeah free the slaves yadda yadda, she still seeks to go to a world and force people by way of killing and war to bow to her rule so, six of one half a dozen of the other if you ask me. Little different than the rest. Dragons are cool yeah, but
...

 

[Crazy Eddie]

No, medieval fantasy isn't something I care for.

Me either, under normal circumstances, but Game of Thrones is still entertaining as fuck!

 

[Hythlodeus]

and we all know how entertaining fuck is

 

[GeekUSACarl]

Me either, under normal circumstances, but Game of Thrones is still entertaining as fuck!

I kinda had to binge watch it, cause we decided to cover it as a topic and I hadn't seen it. Yeah it normally isn't my thing but it was entertaining, but more like "soap opera i cant believe they did that" entertaining. It wasn't good storytelling entertaining.

 

[Mudd]

I love Game of Thrones. Discovery is a very, very lame and timid attempt to glom on to a little of that vibe by rote mimicry. Sort of. The STD producers want to be a little pregnant.