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The Klingons never had cloaking technology during the original series! The first instance was in Star Trek III:The Search For Spock! :klingon:
TWoK confused the two Neutral Zones. The one between the Federation and the Klingon Empire is a no-fire zone imposed by the Organians, not a no-man's-land like the zone between the Federation and the Romulans.

So... maybe Cyrano Jones sold it to the Klingons after Kirk stole it from the Romulans?
 
The Klingons never had cloaking technology during the original series! The first instance was in Star Trek III:The Search For Spock! :klingon:
JB
The first mention of Klingons having a cloaking device was in the animated series (specifically The Time Trap):

SULU: Phasers locked on target, sir.
KIRK: Fire.
SULU: Firing phasers.
(A hit. The Klingon ship vanishes)
KIRK: Mister Spock, did you see what I think I just saw?
SPOCK: Yes, Captain.
KIRK: Explanation?
SPOCK: I can offer none at this time. However, the Klingon ship was not destroyed by our phaser fire. Its shields clearly deflected the phasers. Nor was its disappearance the type that would have been affected if it were using its cloaking device.​
 
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The Klingons never had cloaking technology during the original series! The first instance was in Star Trek III:The Search For Spock! :klingon:
JB
And that's only because in the original script for Star Trek III The Search for Spock,, they were originally Eomulans. Paramount asked that they be changed to Klingons because they were concerned that the General Public didn't really know what Romulans were; but everybody knew Klingons were bad guys. It's the same reason the ship was a Bird of Prey.

So yeah the scriptwriter basically just changed the aliens to Klingons, but left all the other enemy ship elements he had in the script exactly the same.
 
And that's only because in the original script for Star Trek III The Search for Spock,, they were originally Eomulans. Paramount asked that they be changed to Klingons because they were concerned that the General Public didn't really know what Romulans were; but everybody knew Klingons were bad guys. It's the same reason the ship was a Bird of Prey.

So yeah the scriptwriter basically just changed the aliens to Klingons, but left all the other enemy ship elements he had in the script exactly the same.
I blame Nimoy.
 
I don't recall all the details, but I don't believe a full script was ever written for TSFS that had Romulan antagonists. It was in the early story treatments, including a Romulan commander who was more stoic and reserved than what we ultimately got with the Klingon Kruge. And then the earliest scripts had Klingons using a stolen Romulan ship, and then the Romulan connection was dropped completely.

Kor
 
The Klingons never had cloaking technology during the original series! The first instance was in Star Trek III:The Search For Spock! :klingon:
JB
That episode with the Roms using the Klings ships, the K ships decloaked. So demonstrating it's possible to install clock devices on Ks

Also the Enterprise at the end cloacked too
 
And that's only because in the original script for Star Trek III The Search for Spock,, they were originally Eomulans. Paramount asked that they be changed to Klingons because they were concerned that the General Public didn't really know what Romulans were; but everybody knew Klingons were bad guys. It's the same reason the ship was a Bird of Prey.

So yeah the scriptwriter basically just changed the aliens to Klingons, but left all the other enemy ship elements he had in the script exactly the same.

On the surface, that annoys me because it exposes the filmmakers' total lack of concern for Star Trek's source material. The classic cast films were made by people who didn't care about consistency. You can really see it in the art direction: each Star Trek film until Generations looked like something they pulled together on the fly. Meanwhile, the Star Wars movies that I don't even like looked like a cohesive universe.

But "Klingons having a cloaked bird of prey and a neutral zone" turns out to be very defensible, no thanks to the filmmakers, because those are things that can evolve over time, and years had passed since the TV series. If anybody has a cloaking device, the Klingons would want one. It was a logical development.
 
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