You also have to wonder just what sort of state the other ships are in. As we saw in Enterprise and even in TNG/DS9/Voyager, older models like the Daedalus class, and the Excelsior class, once they get going, Starfleet tends to pump them out, and even with upgrades every few years, those ships are still no contest to newer designs like the Constitution class or the Galaxy and Sovereign classes (of course the Sovereign was designed to battle the Borg). Who knows, we might see fleets of an upgraded version of the NX class (like the Columbia class).
If you do a war then doesn't Pike and the Enterprise have to show up?
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I just think it's too early to say much of anything. Well know more at the mid-season break probably.
Something dreadful like that might actually be done. Except the war-ready part. I doubt they end up naming the medal of honor after him because of how unready he was for battle.
Probably because they need a ship they could blow up at the end of the series without causing problems. Can't well blow up the Enterprise.....again, before she's due for her explosion time.
Nah, they can bring in Pike's USS Enterprise NCC-701 and blow it up, then replace it with the NCC-1701 if they wanted. Would not be the first time they've shoehorned another Starship Enterprise into the continuity.
I think if Season 1 doesn't get the results CBS wants.... A Spock appearance in S2 to boost interest in STD will be inevitable.
Spock doesn't exist in this timeline.
End of season one, Burnham will put time right, where her kibdy self dies, and Spock lives, but her adult self carries on as a time orphan (time remnant) which is about when we figure out that Lorca works for temporal investigations and stubbornly ignores universal resets whenever they happen to time.
Whether it's done well or not, and who's cast in the roles, I'm positive we'll get the Enterprise with Pike, Female No. 1, and Spock as a ratings ploy. It's probably inevitable unless the series dies an early death, which I doubt. If they do that, we must have the cute redhead back. That's just a must. LOL
Maybe wartime shortages force Starfleet to start adopting the pullovers. No money for warp-delta boots etc.Pike and the 1701 can't show up, they'll look out of place wearing the actual uniforms for that time period LOL
Whether it's done well or not, and who's cast in the roles, I'm positive we'll get the Enterprise with Pike, Female No. 1, and Spock as a ratings ploy. It's probably inevitable unless the series dies an early death, which I doubt. If they do that, we must have the cute redhead back. That's just a must. LOL
Yeoman J .M Colt?
There was a cute red head on the bridge of the Shenzou (Keyla Detmer), and a cute red head on the Discovery (Cadet Sylvia Tilly)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2956530/?ref_=tt_cl_t15
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6384402/?ref_=tt_cl_t9
Briefly I thought that one of these women might be Colt, before I found Tilly's christian name.
Whether it's done well or not, and who's cast in the roles, I'm positive we'll get the Enterprise with Pike, Female No. 1, and Spock as a ratings ploy. It's probably inevitable unless the series dies an early death, which I doubt. If they do that, we must have the cute redhead back. That's just a must. LOL
TBH, I don't think the network or producers will care about Pike and crew.... just Spock.
Spock alone would bring in the boost they want.
Guaranteed they'll start to introduce Spock by showing us 'Kid Spock' in Burham flashbacks. Also as a viewership ploy.
Considering the Enterprise-E was never on DS9, it probably doesn't.
There were Federation-Cardassian Wars that the Enterprise-D never showed up for.
There was a huge Dominion War that involved all major powers of the Alpha and Gamma Quadrants but not the Enterprise-E.
Maybe this contributes to a canonical event? Getting word of Burnham's court martial and imprisonment is why Spock was yelling!
To nitpick, we know the E-D actually stayed away from those older Border Wars because O'Brien is their only expert on those in "The Wounded", out of a crew that was there from Day One. We don't know that the E-E stayed away from the Dominion War.
We never saw the old war, either, so we totally failed to not see the E-D there, which is different from us not seeing the E-E in the Dominion war which we did see...
Finally, the last fighting we hear of in the Cardassian War is in 2362, at Second Setlik. The E-D was launched in 2363 or thereabouts, and thus can plead Not Fair there.
Timo Saloniemi
We never saw the old war, either, so we totally failed to not see the E-D there, which is different from us not seeing the E-E in the Dominion war which we did see...
Finally, the last fighting we hear of in the Cardassian War is in 2362, at Second Setlik. The E-D was launched in 2363 or thereabouts, and thus can plead Not Fair there.
Timo Saloniemi
Actually it might not be 'shoehorning at all because remember: Pik's 1701 only held a crew of 203 (per either TOS - "The Gage"/TOS- "The Menagerie"); yet in Kirk's era 10 years from 'now'
; his 1701 holds a crew of 430.^^^
Maybe there's a reson for that and it wasn't just a 'refit' that most fans assume was the reason for said increase.
I don't remember seeing a single Sovereign class in any of tge fleets either.
Am I wrong?
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