But would that something the Doctor would even want?
And that database of multiple doctors, the thing that make the Doctor such a good doctor, would all that knowledge still be available if he was converted into "a flesh and blood organic being?"
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And that database of multiple doctors, the thing that make the Doctor such a good doctor, would all that knowledge still be available if he was converted into "a flesh and blood organic being?"
I thought the same thing. I wouldn't be interested in. He is who he is.
Knowing how computers work and that voyager's computer can create at least a dozen of individuals, I've always found it astonishing that the computer couldn't simulate as many doctors as needed at any given time, in case of a crisis.
So in Living Witness we have the doctor trapped 700 years in the future. I've always wondered about that. He was a back up copy on a data storage device yet worked just as well as the original. Seems logical they could have had more than one.
Their ethics might prevent that. It's like bringing a new life into the world. They weren't even sure what to do with that cardassian holodoctor.
If it were me, I would have parts of the doctor's memory erased periodically, and automatically. He's too dangerous to be left to his own devices.
If it were me, I would have parts of the doctor's memory erased periodically, and automatically. He's too dangerous to be left to his own devices.
I have to agree that the doctor led the Voyager crew down the rabbit hole more than once. Flesh and Blood, Author Author, and Renaissance Man immediately spring to mind.
Speaking of the Cardassian doctor, I think it was one of the most idiotic plot points of the entire series. The doctor even said at one point that the doctor's appearance didn't matter, so why not change it, if it's so disturbing for an important part of the crew. Maybe he could have made him look like a borg or species 8472, to make it even more stupid.
B' Elanna: Hey that Borg is going to assimilate me!!
The Doctor: Don't worry, it's the new doctor giving you an injection, I thought it'd be funnier if it looked like he was injecting nanoprobes with his tubules instead!
Speaking of the Cardassian doctor, I think it was one of the most idiotic plot points of the entire series. The doctor even said at one point that the doctor's appearance didn't matter, so why not change it, if it's so disturbing for an important part of the crew. Maybe he could have made him look like a borg or species 8472, to make it even more stupid.
B' Elanna: Hey that Borg is going to assimilate me!!
The Doctor: Don't worry, it's the new doctor giving you an injection, I thought it'd be funnier if it looked like he was injecting nanoprobes with his tubules instead!
But I thought the crew member whose grandfather was tortured by Moset argued even the research should be destroyed because of how it was obtained. Just changing his appearance doesn't solve that problem, right?
In addition the program clearly saw nothing wrong with the real Moset's actions so doesn't that imply he would do it again if the situation dictated it, sort of like what happened in Scientific Method?
It's one of those Trek episodes that gets deeper if you stop and think about it.
They went into the ethics in the episode, but they could have gone deeper. Use the medical knowledge obtained by Human (sapient) experimentation and torture could be seen as justifying how the knowledge was obtained. But not using the knowledge won't undo what was done, and could help/save people who had nothing to do with the torture.
Modern day, do you refuse to use Bayer aspirin because during the second world war Bayer bought Jews from concentration camps to test their (then) new pharmaceuticals on?
I agree there was an ethical debate going on and still does to this day. Like it or not some of our medical advancements did not come from squeaky clean practices. However I'm not sure the episode in question could be solved by just changing the holograms physical features now that the truth has come out.
But that crewmember reacted to Moset's appearance and not to his knowledge. How could he have known what the hologram's knowledge was? So if the doctor had shown a little insight and made the (other) doctor look like say, a Bajoran, none of this would have happened.That's what I call an idiotic plot device. It would have been more convincing if the doctor, for example, has tried a new technique on a patient and someone among the Bajorans had known that that technique was invented by a Cardassian. That way it would have seemed justified instead of just stupid.
I'm fairly certain it was stated in several episodes that due to the complexity of his programme that wouldn't be feasible, the one time they did try to create a copy of him then it failed.
How about "Living Witness"?
^That is yet another example of the VOY writers not keeping track of what they've done previously.
Tom convinced Harry to try making a replacement during "Message in a Bottle", there was no mention of a back-up module then.
Tom convinced Harry to try making a replacement during "Message in a Bottle", there was no mention of a back-up module then.
And there wasn't that much time between the 2 episodes, relatively speaking. They were both in season 4.
^ Unless the backup module was last at some point before "Living Witness" but there is nothing to show that's the case.
Which for me begs the question: If you want us, the audience to care, why don't you? The people making it to make money. You were sooo worried about loss well it would help if you payed attention to your storylines. IMO, UPN/Paramount.
I agree they should have known how the Maquis crew would react to seeing any cardassian on the ship. It's even mentioned in the beginning before Tabor enters the story.
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Ok Discofan. Say they change his appearance. Don't you think he would be constantly dropping clues as to who he really was. He was proud of his work, bragged about it in fact. Wouldn't be long before word spread on the ship.
Living Witness is a really fantastic episode. Do we even know when the events depicted took place?
This backup module could have any number of explanations. The alien race depicted is a super technologically advanced part holographic society. The back up module could have simply been a back up file of all the doctors actions, in case the main computer ever crashed, or was deleted, then they could restore rhe memories to his matrix.
Janeway may also just have been telling the doc a white lie in that episode where he goes to treat Dr Zimmerman.
This backup module could have any number of explanations. The alien race depicted is a super technologically advanced part holographic society. The back up module could have simply been a back up file of all the doctors actions, in case the main computer ever crashed, or was deleted, then they could restore rhe memories to his matrix.
Janeway may also just have been telling the doc a white lie in that episode where he goes to treat Dr Zimmerman.
