If you could rewrite Voyager

[Anwar]

I'd definitely recast some of the characters to be a bit less stale. About 70% of the acting was very bland, especially in contrast to the incredible overacting put on by Avery Brooks & co. on DS9.

Fixed.

The ship would start running out of redshirts after a while, making it apparent that they had no help of any kind.

This isn't like Firefly or NuBSG where there are no aliens, VOY is set in the Trekverse where there are usually dozens of aliens all around them. To think they'd never get help from any of them is silly.

I'd either make Seven of Nine less of a token sex-appeal character or ditch her entirely.

And sink ratings in the process. Just put her in sexy outfits that are just less sleazy, simple.

I'd ditch about 90% of the Borg and Holodeck episodes, effectively chucking about half of the series along with it...

The holodeck stories were there to show that it was being used for recreational purposes that were for everyone's psychological benefit. I mean, it's not like NuBSG didn't do the same thing with the random hallucinations everyone had.

The Borg, look it was clear VOY was going to survive every Borg encounter because they weren't going to end the show. And they weren't going to have them run away because they didn't want to write about a bunch of cowards, in TOS/TNG/DS9 they never ran from anything.

 

[Guy Gardener]

There's been a hundred thousand tv shows made and only 4 sexy women worth remembering.

Sex might sell, but only anonymously.

Barney Stinsen said somethign a few weeks ago barely worth repeating, but it kinda makes my point "Do you kow who usually has the best beasts in the room? Those belonging to the slightly less attractive girlfriend of the woman I slept with LAST NIGHT."

Quality vs variety.

By the third year Seven of Nine could have been my sister or a man.

 

[Saquist]

For me, the maquis element was underused and eventually became irelevant - it was too quickly resloved and if you didn't start watching Voyager until season 2, you'd probably never even know there was such an element

I would have had the maquis maintain a genuine distance from the main crew and eventually would have had a season long arc that detailed a mutiny, a possible mini-war (on board a la die hard) and ended with it with the maquis (and a number of star fleet crew) finding their own ship and going their own way home which would have also been part of the show - one episode on Voyager the next on the maquis ship

anyway, i just wish more had been made of the tension between the two groups

I think most fans don't know what there asking for when they ask for more conflict between main characters.

Truth be told...conflict doesn't make sense when you're trying to surivive. Only insanely stupid people or selfish arrogant people would incite conflict on a ship that is your only refuge amidst drowning hostility and danger.

Seska was the latter and that story line was excellent while it lasted but that is the concept of enemies and allies. The enlightened concept that Roddenberry used to create his stories. He didn't want alies to turn into enemies. I think he saw that it would be petulant to do so among a society that had supposed to defeat war and strife from within.

I think he's right.
Would I have liked more conflict? Maybe a little more but I'm having to throw my shoe in with Anwar that a mutiny is clique.

I'm glad Voyager never took the DS9 route of War and Conflict as a center piece. I believe it ruined DS9 because 1. They didn't do it right in keeping all the War Facts straight 2. it really diminished Trek's hopeful out look of the future.

I'd hate to think they would draw out a Star Fleet, Maquis conflict instead of the awesome and smart episodes we got from Voyager like, Deadlock or Thaw or Counterpoint. Because Ultimately Voyager couldn't do decent Clifhangers anyway so a Maquis/Star Fleet conflict would have gotten stale after a while.

Ultimately if they were going to do this conflict then they wouldn't have destroyed the Maquis Raider in Caretaker. Conflict of this nature is much more poignant when the disident party can actually leave threatening the survival of both and expanding the story line to branch to follow each of the segments. But it was clear that they didn't do that because unity was always the writers and producers Goal on Voyager...

Good Call.

 

[Anwar]

If they WERE going to keep internal conflict going, then the Maquis thing should've resolved itself after one season hopefully and a season and a half AT MOST. After that, the serious conflict would've died down except for minor disagreements and stuff. Further conflict should've been the result of external circumstances, new plot elements introduced, etc.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I admit that I never liked VOY's "Lost In Space" premise, so that would be the first thing to go in my rewrite.

Rather than deal with a starship stuck in the Delta Quadrant, I'd simply have it be about a vessel assigned to a distant part of Federation space where they're close enough to still be in contact with Starfleet, but too far away to return to Earth in a feasible amount of time. In their assigned area, things are a bit more uncivilized and some of the technology used on the few Federation colonies there are nearly a century out of date. There'd be plenty of new aliens out there, but there would be a select few that would be encountered more than others aas they are the major political forces there. The Klingons and the Romulans also have interests in the area, however, which can't be good for our heroes at times...

I'd keep the crew pretty much the same, except that Seven would be a half-Vulcan/half-Human who looks more Human than Vulcan (basically Jeri Ryan with pointed ears). The doctor would eventually be named "Doc Hollow."

Neelix would be an Orion trader who hooks up with the Voyager crew. He'd be similar to Quark in many ways, but a lot more polished like a Wall Street big wheel...

Kes would be the Hollow's head nurse.

 

[froot]

Also, this is the theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D-QD_HIfjA

 

[kimc]

^ LOL

 

[DS9 Gal AZ]

Ooh, I love this thread! I'm sure I'll be saying some of the things you guys have already said, but here it goes:

1.) More tension between Startfleet and Maquis. Not that I need them at each other's throats, but it seemed like in literally one or two eps they were integrated into the crew with no problem. Why introduce an interesting conflict if you're not going to use it?
2.) More consistency in the Janeway character. Muglrew did a great job but was hindered by the writing. One episode Janeway would cleave to the Prime Directive like it was her most sacred belief, the next week that went out the window.
3.) More character development for Harry Kim. And a promotion.
4.) Not ditching the possibility of a Chakotay/Janeway romance for the out-of-nowhere Seven/Chakotay thing. I'm not saying they should have hooked up during the show, but at the end their good have been a hint that they'd explore what they could be to each other now that they were home.
5.) Put the breaks on making VOY "The Seven of Nine Show." I liked the character, catsuits aside, and Jeri Ryan did a good job, but sometimes it was too much of a good thing, you know? Focus on the other characters too!
6.) Tone down Neelix's annoying tendencies (not sure how, but figure out a way, would ya?)
7.) Give Kes and ending that made more sense.
8.) More consistency and continuity in storylines/episodes.

 

[Flashover]

Have them find a way home, it drops them off right near Earth... but it is a very very rough ride.

Hail Starfleet, get the welcome home stuff out of the way then suddenly:

"Engineering to the Bridge! The technobabble that sent us home disrupted the technobable-techobabble on the antimatter system... we're 30 seconds from a catastrophic failure there is nothing I can do!"

Ship explodes, everyone dies.


...seriously folks. Not every story has a happy ending.

 

[BillJ]

Ship explodes, everyone dies.


...seriously folks. Not every story has a happy ending.

You better run before the mob gets here!

 

[Anwar]

Have them find a way home, it drops them off right near Earth... but it is a very very rough ride.

Hail Starfleet, get the welcome home stuff out of the way then suddenly:

"Engineering to the Bridge! The technobabble that sent us home disrupted the technobable-techobabble on the antimatter system... we're 30 seconds from a catastrophic failure there is nothing I can do!"

Ship explodes, everyone dies.


...seriously folks. Not every story has a happy ending.

Yeah, that's why the folks in DS9 all survived despite being in a bloody war (except Dax) and in NuBSG no one important died from the nuclear holocaust or the journey itself (Starbuck was always going to die, and Roslin died from a medical condition diagnosed before the series started).

Seriously, this "Everyone dies" thing is overrated.

 

[Flashover]

Ship explodes, everyone dies.


...seriously folks. Not every story has a happy ending.

You better run before the mob gets here!

Oooh mob justice! I think I like this forum!

 

[WeAreTheBorg]

More conflict with Maquis and otherwise, less reliance on borg stories, more focus on the ship lost in space premise (with struggles and continuity like BSG but not quite that dark, it is Trek after all)

 

[BillJ]

Ship explodes, everyone dies.


...seriously folks. Not every story has a happy ending.

You better run before the mob gets here!

Oooh mob justice! I think I like this forum!

"There's no justice like angry mob justice." - Principal Seymour Skinner

 

[Flashover]

So when do I get pitchforked and burned at the stake?

 

[froot]

So when do I get pitchforked and burned at the stake?

I'll work on getting a mob together after my Sunday afternoon nap. Put on your best asbestos-lined underpants!

 

[Guy Gardener]

So when do I get pitchforked and burned at the stake?

And eaten.

If we're going to cook you, be a darn shame to leave all that meat to go to waste.

You wouldn't by chance be really fat?

It's nice when there's enough to go around for every one.

 

[Flashover]

Also would it be a bad thing to mention that I really DON'T like Janeway and was kind of glad she got "off'd" in the novels?




Someone dared me to post it.

 

[froot]

Also would it be a bad thing to mention that I really DON'T like Janeway and was kind of glad she got "off'd" in the novels?




Someone dared me to post it.

Well, you won't like my new buddy cop show, then. It's too bad; I think it will really revitalize the franchise.

If anyone's interested in investing in my efforts, mail me money. I'll use it to make my new series, and not to go buy enough McRibs to line my house.

This talk of cannibalism has made me strangely hungry.

 

[Monty_66]

Man, I think I probably would have turned Voyager into 'Little House on the Prairie...in space' if given the chance to write for it. A good thing then that I didn't, I suppose.