If Seska had survived...

[Guy Gardener]

Seska was not a Federation citizen.

Federation law only applies inside the Federation, in Federation Embassies, on Federation Star Ships and probably thousands of other loop holey bubbles where Federation law may exist outside the Federation.

Depending on when we diverge from canon, Seska hadn't really broken Federation law on Federation soil and been caught doing it.

If Seska had gotten a lawyer instead of running in State of Flux, the lawyer would have easily have tied Janeway in a litigious knot, and apart from the 15 militant extremist hillbilly Bajorans trying to murder her while sleeping because of racially motivated prejudice, Seska should have been golden.

In Maneuvers she rammed the ship with an attack shuttle and stole transporters.

In their next encounter, all is forgiven as Janeway (barely) tries to create a working relationship with Seska and Cullah with a mutual defense treaty and and trade agreements between themselves and a few other races and Kazon sects in the DQ too.

 

[Drone]

Federation law only applies inside the Federation, in Federation Embassies, on Federation Star Ships and probably thousands of other loop holey bubbles where Federation law may exist outside the Federation.

Guy, Federation gift shops too?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Until the storekeep blows up his own shop from the stress of being a master spy... Maybe?

 

[Jeffe525]

I never liked the whole Seska arc. I didn't like the actress, the way she was written, or the direction they took it. Then they totally lost me when she got pregnant from Chakotay's DNA. WTF? You can't get pregnant from a DNA sample dumbasses!

Anyway... no. After betraying Janeway the way she did and joining the enemy, Seska was beyond redemption. Returning to Voyager as anything more than a prisoner would be unbelievable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She totally emptied a nut of all his sperms.

Seska however, was just too much of a lady to say the word "Jizz".

 

[CatAteMyTribble]

You can't get pregnant from a DNA sample dumbasses!

Not sure that's true. All you'd need to do is take a normal cell, split the chromosome pairs down the middle, and splice it into an ovum's nucleus. Everything except the 'splitting it down the middle' part can be done today, and it's not a huge leap to think they'll figure it out in the next 400 years. If Torres could erase her kid's Klingon DNA in Lineage, then what Seska did has got to be possible.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The science should be there to clone a foetus using both their DNA, and then put the clone in her belly since Trip and T'Pol had it done to them 200 years earlier, but to take his DNA to make cum from the cellulite in his upper thigh, and then flush her out with artificial splodge is too Rube Goldbergian.

The easiest thing to do, since a free standing penis that can live well and comfortably without it's biological support system is horrific, is to outright clone a completely new Chuckles, and then its just a question of if you leave the new clone enough intelligence to understand that he is a man in a box being constantly raped by a crazy spoonhead... Of course if they can make a braindead chakotay as a sex pet who just lays there, why can't they make a Chakotay clone psycologically conditioned to want to father her babies?

Too many ethical questions.

Remember what I said about a freestanding remote penis without a biological support system, how it would be like you in a desert for 15 weeks with no food, water, shelter or shade, well there's nothing to have stopped them from cloning Chak's coozer and grafting it onto Seska's leg so that she could biologically support his meat and two vege, and as a bonus, it would be difficult for the now hermaphrodite not to be constantly self-procreating.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

I've been rewatching the early years of Voyager lately, and I forgot how much I enjoyed Martha Hackett's performance as Seska.

I finished "Basics," where Seska dies next to her baby, and I thought to myself...what if she survived? What if Cullah died instead, and Seska and her son remained alive on Voyager?

Would it have even been possible, or would Janeway get rid of her?

That could become an awesome story arc, but only if the baby is still Chakotay's.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

She'd try to escape (and would probably succeed) which would be fine because then we could have had her as an ongoing enemy all the way through the seven seasons. Have her pop up occasionally to be a thorn in Voyager's side (and maybe once in a while, come to Voyager's aid).

The only way I can see her staying on board is if she's either made a high ranking officer and agrees to play nice (possible but unlikely) or if she's kept in the brig as a kind of Hannibal Lector type character who the captain occasionally visits for advice whenever there's a psycho character she needs insight on.

Maybe this could eventually turn into a counselor role for her. Also unlikely but I definitely would have liked to have seen more of her.

Holy balls, I LOVE your Hannibal idea! An evil genius like Seska could help them solve all kinds of problems.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

In my theoretical reboot of Voyager, I have it that Seska is revealed to be a Cardassian but instead of siding with the Kazon, she is locked up in her quarters, slowly stewing. The Maquis are in uproar and threaten all out mutiny against Captain Shelby (I used her instead of Janeway whilst Hudson replaced Chakotay), before they can be calmed down and an uneasy peace is restored--though would be an point of tension for a while afterwards.

When Michael Jonas sells out the Starfleeters to the Kazon and helps them take the ship, then killed by Cullah, who strands the entire crew on a planet, it is Seska who is left to retake the ship. Her actions see her earn a little respect and trust, which sees her in uniform and back on duty.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I'm not sure I like the idea of keeping Seska aboard as an Evil Consultant. Seska is no Hannibal, but she is smart enough to constantly be escaping her quarters. And she's not a sociopath, she's an enemy agent. Any Maquis should be able to provide the same insight she could. The idea that against true evil she could provide that one bit of info nobody else could is a bit of a stretch for Seska and wouldn't have been that amusing more than once or twice.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Federation and the Cardassian Union are at peace and firm Allies.

Seska is not an Enemy Agent by any definition of the term... Up to the point she was discovered, stole from Voyager something Janeway would come to trade with almost anyone a few years down the line, ran and holed up with the Kazon... Who were also not exactly enemies of the Federation.

And even then is this espionage on behalf of the Union, the work of a foreign agent, either Cardassia of the Kazon, or a theft of something shiny and useful, like a common thief? if she'd just replicated Cardassian tech, Janeway wouldn't have had a leg to stand on in accusing Seska of abusing her rank as a member of Voyager's crew.

Janeway must have found it too embarrassing to list the Kazon as enemies of the Federation, and formerly declare war.

Or cite the Kazon as law breaking criminals for acting with in the due process of law abiding peacekeepers in their own Sovereign territory who write the laws and enforce the laws in the space Janeway was trespassing in.

The Kazon were based on the LA gangs, which many has considered to be racist, although we're not sure if it's the black gangs or the Latino Gangs some white guys are being racist at, so how damn racist are they if they can't tell the difference between a Latino ganbanger and an African American ganbanger?

Vague laws, but laws, more rules maybe, cross referenced against a feudal monarch in each of the Majes and you have a limited entry level but recognizable legal system used by a cogent method of governance accepted and respected by an entire species ... Leaps and bounds above any water the space Dolphins were treading.

 

[hux]

Had Seska just owned up to being a spy but requested to stay on board as a valued member of the crew, I'm sure Janeway would have acquiesced and Seska would have been much more likely to get home and would have been much less dead when they got there.

The idea that glue-sniffing numpties like the Kazon would offer her a better, more efficient way home is preposterous. She clearly hooked up with them because she enjoyed being the troll in Voyager's thread. She was a born arse.

With that in mind, I can totally see her sat in her quarters, mopping her brow and giving advice to Janeway whilst drinking a nice Chianti.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In Seska's mind, Voyager could get "home" if it's Captain wasn't such a nonce.

Seska, who is not a nonce, needed some help to crew the ship after she took it, if she became the new Captain, because lets face it, one person cannot fly that ship very well, for very long.

 

[hux]

What does nonce mean round your way?

Here it means kiddie fiddler.

I'm now remembering Phil Collins wearing a T-shirt that said nonce-sense

I miss Brasseye

 

[Guy Gardener]

Andrew Kim.

Just saying.

Totally being groomed for the Captain.

 

[RoJoHen]

Had Seska just owned up to being a spy but requested to stay on board as a valued member of the crew, I'm sure Janeway would have acquiesced and Seska would have been much more likely to get home and would have been much less dead when they got there.

Janeway might have been willing to let Seska stay, but I can't imagine the rest of the Maquis crew being happy about it once they learned she was a Cardassian.

 

[hux]

Meh, they'd get over it.

Everyone had their previous lives and missions. Once they were stranded, it became a ship of compromise. Seska was the only one who wasn't interested in that though.

A shame.

 

[Paradise City]

You'd have several fine episodes right there if Seska got to stay on the crew as an unmasked Cardassian and Tuvok's betrayal was actually exploited as it should've been.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Cou... BSG... Ough!!