Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
.....in its current format today, would Star Trek go on to be around for 50 or so years or would it die after a few films?
If JJ had created Trek....
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And how many Klingons can dance on the head of a pin?
Honestly, how can we answer this? Who would've known that a short-lived NBC space opera would keep regenerating itself the way Trek has? Who knows what modern franchise is going to have legs? FRINGE? FALLING SKIES? SUPERNATURAL?
You might as well as well ask if the new James Bond movie would beget forty years of sequels if there were no previous BOND films. Or if Spider-Man would be a household name if he were invented tomorrow instead of back in the sixties.
Honestly, how can we answer this? Who would've known that a short-lived NBC space opera would keep regenerating itself the way Trek has? Who knows what modern franchise is going to have legs? FRINGE? FALLING SKIES? SUPERNATURAL?
You might as well as well ask if the new James Bond movie would beget forty years of sequels if there were no previous BOND films. Or if Spider-Man would be a household name if he were invented tomorrow instead of back in the sixties.
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Stupid Fox. . .
Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
Treks re-emergence was based on syndication and Star Wars, it was driven by a fan base too.
If JJ Trek had never been on TV and had just been another 2009 film, what about would have kept it going for 50 years?
If JJ Trek had never been on TV and had just been another 2009 film, what about would have kept it going for 50 years?
Only time would tell.
Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
Why? It's disposable in a way old Trek never was isn't it? It would have little antecedence, little in the way of a loyal fan base and nothing in the way of brand loyalty.
I think it would fall over, quickly too.
^ I said that because one can never be sure, and for a lot of people it was new to them and they liked it. Pretty much everyone's heard of Star Trek, but there are still quite a lot of those people that have never watched the original.
Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
I hope I'm not doing anyone a disservice but I think people are missing my point; I'm asking if Trek began in 2009 with that film, would it still be around in 50 years?
No prior TV, no animated, no fiction etc etc.
^ Right. And my answer to that is only time would tell.
Exactly. Just as it would have been if the same question had been asked about the original Star Trek in Fall of 1966, the only real answer is "No way to tell, but I'll let you know in 50 years." Anything else would be empty speculation, and utterly meaningless.
Unless, of course, Transwarp has in his possession a hitherto-unknown Magic Sociological Formula™ by which such projections of future entertainment value and franchise longevity might be calculated with any degree of certainty whatsoever... ?
Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
Not sure that tone is necessary.
So, to break it down more, was the casting of the original Trek partially responsible for the longevity as well as the quality of the writing?
Compared directly to today's Trek, would that carry today's Trek?
Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
In fact, delete the thread, what hope for sensible debate when the moderator acts like a king sized tit?
Thanks.
Thanks.
The moderator was not acting like a "king sized tit." I think the issue was that you condescendingly assumed that people didn't understand your question when we did. All the moderator pointed out was that perhaps the issue was that you didn't quite understand the answers you were given. That is all. There's no need to throw a fit over that. We can all just move on.
Transwarp Drive
Lieutenant
I said I hoped I wasn't doing a disservice to anyone, I wasn't condescending to anyone, I simply rephrased my OP.
I understood the point the moderator made perfectly along with the pissiness inherent.
Like I said, shut the thread, it's obvious that this thread is as dead as a dead thing now.
Probably not.
It's not a comment on quality, but more on audiences having far more in the way of entertainment options and shorter attention spans.
Trek built its popularity by being unique in a time where a lot of different entertainment options didn't exist.
It's not a comment on quality, but more on audiences having far more in the way of entertainment options and shorter attention spans.
Trek built its popularity by being unique in a time where a lot of different entertainment options didn't exist.
Trek was very much of it's time. There is SO MUCH scifi/fantasy out there now, one standalone movie will never have the kind of impact Trek did during it's 70's reruns when fandom took off or Star Wars did in 78.
On a personal level, I'd definitely have enjoyed JJ's Star Trek as a standalone movie. But I doubt I'd have loved it as much, had it not been the rebirth of Kirk, Spock and the rest who I grew up watching and reading about.
On a personal level, I'd definitely have enjoyed JJ's Star Trek as a standalone movie. But I doubt I'd have loved it as much, had it not been the rebirth of Kirk, Spock and the rest who I grew up watching and reading about.
And if Gone With the Wind was written by Anne Rice instead of Margaret Mitchell and published in 1975 instead of the 30s, would it still have been a bestseller? And if the first Bond movie was released in 2012 instead of 1962, would the series still become a phenomenon? Who knows? Different eras, different audiences, different timing.
It seems you're trying to make some sort of point about how the latest film is more "disposable" than the earlier versions, but we're just talking meaningless hypotheticals here that have nothing to do with the content or quality of the various different incarnations of Trek.
It seems you're trying to make some sort of point about how the latest film is more "disposable" than the earlier versions, but we're just talking meaningless hypotheticals here that have nothing to do with the content or quality of the various different incarnations of Trek.
