If Burnham meets Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by JirinPanthosa, Dec 15, 2019.

  1. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    I just got through my first rewatch, and it’s left me really hoping somehow the two series cross over in some way.

    The main reason being Sarek. There is no way when Sarek’s emotions were transferred to Picard he did not learn of Burnham. And take seriously the same obligation never to speak of her.

    But imagine the nuanced emotion in that scene, when Picard lays eyes on Discovery and knows immediately what it means. He feels Sarek’s vicarious emotions in a flash, and then realizes it’s his obligation to tell her about the fates of Spock and Sarek.

    I wouldn’t be sad if Discovery, trying to get home, got marooned in the 25th century.
     
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  2. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Commodore Commodore

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    I would find it very odd, honestly
     
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  3. KennyB

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  4. SolarisOne

    SolarisOne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yeah. That ain't happening. It wouldn't surprise me if the only hints at DSC even being a thing in Picard are perhaps a Georgiou name drop or an Enterprise model that depicts the DSC version, instead of TOS.
     
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  5. Jayson1

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    Perhaps in a Epic Rap Battle. Jason
     
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  6. Danja

    Danja Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It would be Voyager all over again.
     
  7. CorporalClegg

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    I'd much rather watch Pat and SMG play Splatoon.
     
  8. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I'll cut-and-paste what I just posted in another thread because as I read this one, it's unintentionally relevant here too.

    Cutting and pasting:

    "They assimilated Picard, and it was after he mind-melded with Sarek!" Yes. But a mind-meld isn't the same as a permanent info dump. Ask McCoy who went through more than just a mind-meld and actually carried Spock's katra. I re-watched "Sarek" (TNG) a month-and-a-half ago. Picard wasn't mind-melded that long and only knew what was on Sarek's mind at the moment while Sarek was completing his last diplomatic mission. You can know someone without knowing their entire biography. And the reverse is also true. You can know someone's biography but not know the actual person behind it at all.

    What Picard remembers of Sarek's emotions in the moment they were melded is what transferred to him. That's the alternative in case Picard doesn't know who Burnham is.
     
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  9. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Not to be a whiny pessimist here, but they did eventually do that to win the battle.
    :nyah:

    I'm of mixed feelings with this.
    I know it would probably be very "fanboyish" for Them to do it, but the Trek Nerd part of my brain would love to see it anyway.
    :D
     
  10. The Wormhole

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    Sarek mind melded with Picard, and shortly thereafter Picard was assimilated by the Borg, which means the Borg know everything Sarek knew and passed onto Picard about Disco and Michael Burnham. Which itself means that Seven of Nine one day had a conversation with Neelix in which she told him everything on the matter.

    Tune into the season finale of Picard to see what this sets up.
     
  11. Ovation

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    Don’t worry. It doesn’t make you a pessimist. It does, however, make you a pedant. ;)
     
  12. DaveyNY

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    Picard only picked up on Sarek's thoughts, overwhelming emotions and current worries at the moment of the meld, not Sarek's complete gamut of knowledge.
    And I don't remember Spock being able to recite the entire life history of the people and creatures he ever melded with.
    Hell, when he did try it with V'GER it damn near killed him.
    I highly doubt that Picard's untrained mind could have retained the memories of even a small portion of Sarek's entire life.

    I'm also pretty sure that the BORG probably would have completely dismissed and then ignored all the emotional baggage that Picard had picked up from Sarek anyway.

    As a side note, Sarek had already made his peace with Michael just before she and the Discovery jumped to the future, it's not likely that that would have been one of the things he was stressing about.
     
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  13. The Wormhole

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    Sweet fuck, do you know what a joke is?
     
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  14. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah, umm..., but I'm in Full Trek Nerd Mode this morning, can't help it.
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  15. F. King Daniel

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    Did Sarek ever learn about the spore drive? How it worked?
     
  16. NewHeavensNewEarth

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    If not before, he had to have had knowledge about it through the mind meld when the Discovery returned from the MU and he was making sure they were who they said they were.
     
  17. DaveyNY

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    Just being allowed to board the Discovery probably puts him in a higher classification of knowledge about Star Fleet secrets.
    Never mind also being a Vulcan Ambassador.
    I'm pretty sure his "Top Secret" classification was well above the necessary level at that point.
    :techman:
     
  18. F. King Daniel

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    Even if he knew Discovery had an advanced drive system, I doubt he'd know enough of it's workings or principles for any of it to matter.
     
  19. Tim Thomason

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    I'm watching Crisis on Infinite Earths lately, thinking we need a Star Trek version in a few years. Burnham uses the Red Angel suit to rescue Picard and then they travel to the USS Cerritos to stop a mycelial plane accident that will destroy all life in the multiverse. Featuring quick, wooden, and hamfisted cameos from Scott Bakula, George Takei, Zachary Quinto & Ethan Peck, Armin Shimerman, Chris Pine, Michael Dorn, Matt Winston, Jeffrey Combs, Benedict Cumberbatch, Chris Doohan, Tom Ellis, and the voice of John de Lancie.
     
  20. Danja

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    If we had four different versions of TNG, five different versions of Voyager, and three different versions of DS9, then I can see how a Star Trek COIE might be justified.