IDW revisiting Mirror Universe

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  1. Nyotarules

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    In the Prime MU humans seemed less bloodthirsty, even Miles O'Brien was respected for being a decent man. Plus there was no Terran Empire, not even in the Sol system and there was no Imperial fleet either. The specs for the Mirror Defiant came from the Prime world. In the comicverse Picard MU, Miles would be slaughtered.
     
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  2. Nyotarules

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    Unless the Betazoids were extreme pacifists. How you not going to defend yourself when you know someone wants to destroy you because you can read their thoughts? The Prime Betazed used telepathy to defeat the Jem Hader, I bet the Mirror versions would have done the same.
    As much fun as the MU is in storytelling, the idea of humans being top dog in the universe is a reflection of the writers ego based Eurocentric attitudes.
     
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  3. JD

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    I haven't read it, but I believe this was supposed to be following some of the last members of the Empire. I've seen several places, including an interview with the artist, which specifially said that this takes place in the same version of the MU we saw in DS9.
     
  4. Christopher

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    No, it was a reflection of the need to use the regular cast in every episode. If they were going to go into a parallel universe, it needed to feature the same people who were the main characters in the regular universe, because hiring a bunch of new actors would cost more. Also, the whole appeal of "parallel universe" stories is to give the actors a chance to play variations on their characters.

    Besides, when "Mirror, Mirror" was written, no other Federation member species had really been established yet besides Vulcans. And if anything, MM implies that Vulcans are more prominent in the Empire than in the Federation, since there are several Vulcans aboard the ISS Enterprise (well, Spock and his Vulcan bodyguards, at least), and Sulu is intimidated by Spock's warning that some of the people who'd avenge his death are Vulcans.
     
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    The Vulcans probably employed their own telepathic abilities to seek out and destroy any rival telepaths (such as the Betazoids) who could have possibly posed a threat to the Empire.
     
  6. Nyotarules

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    Then the writer needs to watch DS9...again.
     
  7. Nyotarules

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    Then a MM episode where the crew were serving under a Vulcan empire would make more sense and be a better twist for the viewers and the crew.
    The opening scene of the ENT MM episode would have Solkar beaming down and shooting Cochran on the spot lol
     
  8. JD

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    How specific of timeline did they set up? I thought most of it was rather vague, when it came to exactly when things happened.
     
  9. The Wormhole

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    It is very vague. This history of the Mirror Universe in between Mirror, Mirror and Crossover is summarized very briefly in Crossover:
     
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  10. Tuskin38

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    These are the last of the empire, the only system they have left is Sol. For the rest of the humans in the galaxy they probably think the Empire is dead and gone.
     
  11. JD

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    Do they give an indication where it takes place in relation to the DS9 episodes?
     
  12. Nyotarules

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    Not yet
     
  13. Nyotarules

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    Because subspace communications are cut off between Bajor and Earth? Picard is totally clueless there is a human slave camp in the alpha quadrant called Terok Nor? That's a weak plot point.
    Its more likely the Mirror universe for the Kelvin verse, why the writers won't admit it I don't know. Saying its the Prime Mirror universe does not add up.
     
  14. King Bob!

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    Who really cares? It has been a decent story thus far. I'd personally rather have a decent story than try to fit in with the God-awful DS9 version of the MU.
     
  15. Nyotarules

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    Who really cares? An ironic question from someone who spends time like myself nit picking Star Trek issues that the rest of the world don't give a shit about LOL

    I like the mirror story comics but the writers saying its the DS9 one well, thats a lot of crock, if they had any sense they would gladly distance themselves from that mess.
     
  16. King Bob!

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    :lol:

    Canon is just something I quit caring about. I'm going to choose an entertaining story over canon every single time.
     
  17. Nyotarules

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    Which is what the comic writers should admit to doing, and stop pretending it matches canon when it does not fit and does not need to fit.
     
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  18. King Bob!

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    Looking at the dialogue above, it doesn't really look like they are violating anything on-screen. Fanon has a way of seeping in and making one think something happened that actually didn't.

    I, and many others, thought that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet and wanted to burn Paramount to the ground around the time of Enterprise. :lol:
     
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    I thought Spock was the only Vulcan in the universe until Journey to Babel. After that I bought that bridge connected to Brooklyn. :lol:
     
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  20. JD

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    I really don't see where it contradicts anything. From my memory and what was said earlier in the thread, it seems to me that there's plenty of wiggle room in what they established in the DS9 episodes to squeeze this in there.
    TNG started in 2364 and Crossover was in 2370, so there are 6 years to set the story in without contradicting DS9 and still keep it in the TNG era.