^^Well, Memory Alpha places them in 2378, but the Pocket Novel Chronology places them at the end of 2377.
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At this point it would seem that the people who it will matter to the most are the fans and writers of trek-lit. So if the PNC says 2377 (which i'm inclined to agree with), then 2377 it is. Neelix was wrong!!! Let no one say otherwise
Or Neelix was just using a different calendar than the Gregorian. Earth alone has several different calendar schemes, and that's on a planet with a single year length. Who knows how many different First Contact Days the various cultures of the Federation might celebrate?
But isn't First Contact day in celebration of when Earth was visited by the Vulcan's? Why would, for example, the Bolians or the Andorians care about that? It would be an Earth holiday, not neccesarily a Federation wide one. You are right about several Calendars being in use on Earth, so that still stands as a possible explanation.
Don't you think there are any humans living on Bolarus or Andoria, assimilated enough into their cultures to use their calendars but still enough in touch with their heritage to care about Earth's First Contact Day?
Besides, we're talking about Neelix here. He was the morale officer of a crew in a demoralizing situation, and thus would concoct any excuse for a celebration. He even threw a party based on an archaic Vulcan ritual that hadn't been honored for millennia, as I recall. So is it so unlikely that he might decide to honor the calendars of the various different homeworlds of Voyager's crewmembers and mix and match their holidays and year lengths in order to create multiple excuses to celebrate the same anniversary?
That said, if anyone can give me a convincing argument that Homecoming takes place in May or June 2378 instead of January, I'm willing to be convinced. The tricky part there is that Homecoming/The Farther Shore covers a span of nearly 3 months, and Spirit Walk begins 3 months after that and covers nearly a month. That would mean Spirit Walk ended in November '78, which I guess isn't impossible. But I'm not sure if there are any specific references suggesting otherwise. (And it would push the first half of Full Circle into early '79.)
There are plenty of American ex-pats living in Canada, but that doesn't mean they observe Columbus Day or that they take off MLK day. Most likely they observe Canadian holidays like Victoria Day and Canada Day...Humans on Bolarus and Andor(ia) who have assimilated into those societies probably celebrate the Bolians and Andorians first contact days...but I can see how they would try to celebrate a 300+ year old Earth holiday, when it's as important as First Contact would have been(and will be
)...When it comes to Neelix, however...I agree. He made up any excuse plausible to throw a party
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Yeah, but for those people, such celebrations come along only once in a blue moon.
Though they are red-letter days.Yeah, but for those people, such celebrations come along only once in a blue moon.
Yeah, but for those people, such celebrations come along only once in a blue moon.
about once in every three years, that's not too bad.
But they probably do celebrate the 4th of July, which is more comparable to the First Contact holiday than MLK day.
There are plenty of American ex-pats living in Canada, but that doesn't mean they observe Columbus Day or that they take off MLK day. Most likely they observe Canadian holidays like Victoria Day and Canada Day...Humans on Bolarus and Andor(ia) who have assimilated into those societies probably celebrate the Bolians and Andorians first contact days...but I can see how they would try to celebrate a 300+ year old Earth holiday, when it's as important as First Contact would have been(and will be
When it comes to Neelix, however...I agree. He made up any excuse plausible to throw a party
Actually, it isn't. MLK Day is supposed to be Martin Luther King Jr.'s actual birthday, but it's been moved to a Monday to accommodate work schedules. Meanwhile, Independence Day is rigidly set on 4 July, even though the 3rd is actually a better date for it historically, and it took weeks for the Declaration of Independence to be signed by all parties.
Well, it depends on whether you think the colonies became legally independent from the Kingdom of Great Britain when they took the vote on whether or not to declare independence, or when the Declaration was composed, or when it was legally dated to.
Of course, it's also thoroughly arguable that the Declaration of Independence didn't create the United States of America, the federal state, but, rather, created the united States of America, a collection of independent states united in a common alliance but not a common government... By that logic, the United States, as an actual state, didn't come into existence until 1788.
And then of course there's the fact that even though 5 April 2063 is considered First Contact, there were numerous instances of Human-alien contact prior to the Vulcans landing in Montana, which is at least comparable to the question over whether the US became independent on 2, 3, or 4 July 1776.
Besides, Ben's post probably referred to cultural significance rather than dates.
I was browsing deviantart and came across this for a new Trek mini:
http://jhunt5440.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-108903933
http://jhunt5440.deviantart.com/art/Star-Trek-108903933
Hmm... that's Kirk in the middle... are those Mitchell and Kelso beside him? The woman in front doesn't have an Enterprise insignia, so she's probably a new character.
Cool... they've actually got the three different second-pilot uniform colors right. The mustard and reddish-brown uniforms are often mistaken as the same color.
I wonder what this is for.
The artist is the same one doing the Mission's End miniseries, for which the description of the first issue described the final mission in Kirk's five-year-mission, but also suggested appearances by Gary Mitchell, Lee Kelso, and Dr. Piper. I'm anticipating flashbacks....
^ It can't help matters that Mike Okuda himself is among those who repeatedly make the mistake, as evidenced by the "Where No Man Has Gone Before" information text commentary.
That art is gorgeous. I've been very happy with the high quality of artwork (and writing for that matter) since IDW started their trek-comics. I can't wait to see this series
...now if only we could get comic adaptations of Destiny!Similar threads
