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I Was Strangled and Beaten by a Stranger. I'm Injured. I'm Angry.

You are a brave, admirable soul.

You do not have to wait for the DA to contact you. He is an elected official. A public servant.

I do not know where in LA you reside, but here is a lnik:

http://da.co.la.ca.us/locations3.htm


THANK YOU. I am scouring this website right now.

Under any other circumstances, I could have found this so easily. It's amazing how google-fu goes right out the window when you've been traumatized. How I haven't curled up into a ball at this point is amazing.

Just picture Squiggy mooning a computer image of Holdfast. That'll ball you up real quick.
 
You are a brave, admirable soul.

You do not have to wait for the DA to contact you. He is an elected official. A public servant.

I do not know where in LA you reside, but here is a lnik:

http://da.co.la.ca.us/locations3.htm


THANK YOU. I am scouring this website right now.

Under any other circumstances, I could have found this so easily. It's amazing how google-fu goes right out the window when you've been traumatized. How I haven't curled up into a ball at this point is amazing.

Just picture Squiggy mooning a computer image of Holdfast. That'll ball you up real quick.

Squiggy's ass is not half bad. Well, a little pasty, but not bad. [edit - okay way more than a little pasty]














Ooops, did I say that out loud?
 
bears you can write direct to the california victims program..

http://www.boc.ca.gov/victims/howtoapply.aspx

pm the city you live in and i would be willing to research local options.

glad you got an attorney but i agree with elk and others that maybe you might be better served by contacting the da's office.
the police just investigate but the da will prosecute.

I've known a few people who have had similar experiences and had to deal with similarly intransigent and indifferent police bureaucracies. You really do have to make a friend at the DA's office.

You also need to find an attorney who can represent you with the cops, the DA and the apartment complex. It will do wonders for you and things will happen much more smoothly.

You need someone who specializes in this sort of thing and who is not just in it for the money. My friend's cousin had her jaw broken and her cheek bone smashed in a mugging a couple of years ago, and she found a great lawyer. Look into local nonprofit organizations set up for legal counseling of victims of crime (or the local branch of a national one like the National Center for Victims of Crime). You may find it useful to start with womens' organizations; if they can't help you, they can probably refer you. Also, you can use resources like http://www.victimlaw.info/ to get a better picture of your rights and recourse. Many law schools also have programs where you can get advice on that sort of thing, which would help point you in the right direction. The latter might also be a good source for a referral to an attorney.

Good luck! And make them eat it.
 
BDF, you are not a victim, you are a hero and if my message got lost in translation...We are all proud of you. I hope everything goes well. I hate it when people try to give you the Disney version of life to make you feel better, only you can make yourself feel better, because life has a way of working things out. I know people here hate me and take things I say the wrong way...I am very sincere when I say you did a good thing, God bless You. :)


JF
 
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Oh, wow, this is awful. You absolutely need to take the guy down. Not only for what he might do to others, but for your own peace of mind.

I've fortunately never been in a remotely similar situation, so I can't honestly say I sympathize. But I am very sorry to hear about this.

Stick with this thing. Annoy enough people long enough and something will happen. But don't let it consume you. Once the wheels are in motion, get out and do something fun, something that lets you focus on what you do have rather than what you don't. Buy an ice cream. I'd treat you to that myself if I lived out west.
 
Holy... :( :( :(

Bears, that is one shitty situation. If I could give you a hug over the internet, I would.

I must say, though, that you handled yourself with courage and strength. I'd like to think I'd react the same way, but honestly, I have no idea if I could handle it as well as you -- and I hope I never have to find out.

The utter incompetence of the police, the building management, and the hospital staff just boggles the mind. :wtf: I don't know how you got so unlucky as to be surrounded by such assholes and morons after a traumatic and devastating incident such as this. My heart goes out to you honey. Someone suggested trying to contact the media, and that might be a good idea. These people deserve to be publicly embarrassed, at the very least.

As for the fucker who actually attacked you... I hope he rots in jail for the rest of his life (as unlikely as that will be, unfortunately). He seems like a deeply disturbed individual who does not belong in civilized society. And someone needs to slap some sense into his partner, who also sounds completely bonkers, but in a different way entirely. I'm glad to hear you're suing him too -- he is, for all intents and purposes, an accessory to the crime.

Best of luck in your recovery and your litigious efforts. I hope you find justice.
 
You are amazingly brave to run out of your apartment to help someone you didn't even know. You may have saved a life; keep that in mind if you later beat yourself up about doing it.

I can tell you will be all right. It took courage to lay it on the line during that attack, and to come on here and tell us all what happened. I believe you are a naturally strong person. You will find talking about it helps the bad feelings go away. Talk with friends, family, and counselors until you are sick of talking about it. Once you get to that point, the acute hurt will be gone.

But while it will stick with you for a while, you will find yourself forgetting about it for increasing times, until it finally goes away.
 
THANK YOU. I am scouring this website right now.

Under any other circumstances, I could have found this so easily. It's amazing how google-fu goes right out the window when you've been traumatized. How I haven't curled up into a ball at this point is amazing.

Just picture Squiggy mooning a computer image of Holdfast. That'll ball you up real quick.

Squiggy's ass is not half bad. Well, a little pasty, but not bad. [edit - okay way more than a little pasty]














Ooops, did I say that out loud?

:lol:

I think I said everything already in your lj, Bears, but just to add: Go get him.
 
This is tremendously horrible news. Please fight as best you can. And consider being an inspiration to people...write a book, call the media...get the WORD OUT and you'll have even more people standing behind you.

Be well...heal fast. :(
 
I've been told twice now that I am wrong to feel angry at the victim for his behavior. I was told I am insensitive to his plight and his fragile battered-wife psychology. Well, fuck his idiot ass and fuck the people who are rationalizing away his extremely selfish stupidity. I don't care about the twisted psychology of this guy, if he is obstructing an investigation into this incident and is aiding and abetting this evil man, then he is a fucking moron and a selfish immoral prick who deserves what will inevitably rain down upon him.
My sentiments exactly.

Personally I would have stayed inside and called the cops (unless I knew the victim personally and could vouch that they wouldn't be an idiot and turn on me). You're braver than me. But sadly your story reinforces my overall policy of not bothering to help people unless I happen to already know they deserve my help. (Fortunately I know all my neighbors and already have determined which ones I'd intervene on behalf of and no, it's not all of em. ;))
No one called the police. I called the police twice.
No one came out to help me or the other victim as we were being beaten and strangled.
No one attempted to contact the apartment manager while this was happening.
No one would open the main door of the building to admit the police. As a result, it took over a half hour for the police and paramedics to get into my building to rescue us.
One person complained to the manager the next day that we were a nusiance and disturbed his sleep.

So you know what? Fuck them too.
Maybe they knew the couple are fucktards. That would explain their indifference. They certain don't sound like people I'd waste a phone call to the cops on.

The manager should boot the fucktards out of the building so everyone else can get some sleep and not be bothered with their bullshit.
Actually, I would do it all again because had I not interfered, the attacker either would have killed the victim, or no one would have gotten involved, enforcing the status quo until the victim was eventually murdered by his partner. As angry as I am at the victim right now, had I decided this was not my business and abandoned him there on the floor, I could not live with myself ever again. But because I did do something, my conscience is clean.
He's a grownup. If he can't deal with his own shit, it's not your job to do it for him. And if he's really that pathetic, sooner or later he'll end up dead anyway regardless of what you do. At least you have the satisfaction of knowing you did nothing wrong.

The police asked me if I wanted to press charges and I was like, omg do you even have to ask that question?! Of course! I want to press every charge against him I can. Hell, I even want to nail him for sexual assault because he ripped my shirt open and left me exposed!
Nail his fucking ass to the wall. It's the only way people like that fucktard will learn. Well, he won't learn but at least you'll have the satisfaction of doing it.

Oh and don't forget to sue the building where you live - owner, management, everyone. They should not be exposing you to a dangerous situation like that!
 
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Bears, what happened to you is SO WRONG. I'm very glad that you fought back and are continuing your fight. I think you saved your own life.

Don't forget that while you need to take care of your physical injuries, you should take care of yourself emotionally too.
 
While I was at my apartment building on Tuesday, my neighbors scurried past me with their heads down and wouldn't look me in the eye. I think they know what they failed to do, and they're going to have to live with themselves over this for the rest of their lives.

Me? I can live with myself.
Some of us are old enough that the name "Kitty Genovese" still means something. I was so horrified by your Post that I forgot to even mention how incredibly brave you were. You should indeed be very proud of yourself. :)

Yeah, I'll echo this. If the story had ended there, it would have been one of the coolest stories ever. Bears, I honestly think you were braver than I would have been in that situation.

Thanks Trekker. I actually don't have an attorney yet because I don't have the first clue how to go about getting one. I've never needed the services of a lawyer before.

Does anyone have advice on how to find and choose a lawyer? Will I need more than one lawyer? One for the apartment complex and one for the attacker? I'm lost in the woods, and it's only compounding my frustration.

My advice is probably generic and not particularly helpful, but take it if you want. You would probably need two lawsuits, if not two lawyers. One would be a personal injury lawsuit, the other would be a disability discrimination lawsuit (although if you sue the apartment complex for not stopping the attack, then it could be one lawsuit). The best thing to do would be to find one lawyer who you trust to handle your case and ask his or her advice about a second lawyer to handle

Most lawyers will work for a contingent fee. It's not exactly pro-bono, but it means they'll front all the costs and will get repaid based on the winnings. Odds are that you won't get much money (maybe from the apartment complex), but if your goal is more about punishing them or having a court declare what they did was wrong, then it's probably best to go ahead anyway.
 
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I don't know if there is anything I can do, but if there is, please let me know.

And I second the motion about contacting local news stations. In fact, just for the hell of it, I'd start contacting big news stations in the state and other states, maybe even shoot off (even if nothing happens) e-mail some big news shows like Bill O'Reilly.

Also try looking for message boards for lawyers and what not and see if anyone will take a pro bono case. Hell, maybe someone here is from California and a lawyer.


Also print out a story of what happened (maybe you whole post) and start circulating it to everybody in the building. You may get evicted, but maybe having even half a building on your side will have the dumbshit manager singing a different tune. Or at least get his ass attacked by the attacker.
 
What a terrible thing. This is seriously why I avoid people and help nobody.

I wouldn't be able to do that. When someone's in need of help, I have to act. I imagine what it would be like if I were in their situation, and so I must act. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.


J.
 
Oh, Bears! I have no advice on top of what's already been said, but I have lots of prayers and good thoughts for you (and some not-so-good thoughts for the jerks responsible for this). You are very brave.
 
What a terrible thing. This is seriously why I avoid people and help nobody.

I wouldn't be able to do that. When someone's in need of help, I have to act. I imagine what it would be like if I were in their situation, and so I must act. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.


J.

Indeed, if I was pinned to the floor screaming for help while some man was biting my face off, and nobody came to my aid, it would destroy any faith in humanity I may have had.
 
But also, don't take on situations you can become overwhelmed by easily, like standing out there while the attacker is still present and attacking. I'm glad you're not dead, you're one of my favorite posters, but please -- next time stay locked up safe. He (or in this case she) who runs away, lives to fight another day.
 
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