Same here.
I want to punch Jack in the face
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Same here.
Nardpuncher
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Is there any character we haven't wanted to smack in the face at least once?
Maybe Rose?
I'm not kidding when I say she irked me a couple of times. I think she was being snide or mean with Bernard.
So not a punch in the face, but I'd like for her to trip on some driftwood and fall and get sand in her mouth, I guess that's it.
I don't really get all the Jack hate. His motivations are a bit fuzzy, at times -- like during all of season five -- but I like that he was introduced as the do-gooder hero you can count on to fix everything only to have him fail miserably. His dad basically told him he'd never measure up, and he hasn't.
I never would have believed you if you told me during the first season that Sawyer, who I thought then was a complete douche, and Jack were essentially going to have traded places by the fifth season. I thought it was brilliant of the writers to have Jack tell a story during the pilot of how he bravely counted to five and calmed his nerves in order to save a girl's life, only to have it revealed in the season five finale that his dad basically forced him into a timeout before he ended up killing her. It perfectly demonstrated how Jack sees himself vs. what he really is.
I never would have believed you if you told me during the first season that Sawyer, who I thought then was a complete douche, and Jack were essentially going to have traded places by the fifth season. I thought it was brilliant of the writers to have Jack tell a story during the pilot of how he bravely counted to five and calmed his nerves in order to save a girl's life, only to have it revealed in the season five finale that his dad basically forced him into a timeout before he ended up killing her. It perfectly demonstrated how Jack sees himself vs. what he really is.
I firmly beleive that Kate is useless and should be slapped on a regular basis.
Yes, Jack is an unusually annoying and prickly lead character for a network show, which is one of the reasons I like that they've made him the lead. It's more in the cable mold, where lead characters are dangerous psychos, criminals, or just jackasses like Don Draper and Larry David who dare you to watch the show despite how odious they are.
Yep. But at least Jack integrated that experience into his life rather than peevishly rejecting it as more interference from daddy. Jack is a weak, flawed person who still strives to overcome his serious deficiencies. That makes him more sympathetic than, for instance, Sayid, who is a much stronger and more stable person despite having gone through shit that would have crushed Jack like a bug.
My jaw hit the ground when I saw this scene. None of my friends remember the previous reference right off the bat, but I did. Him helping Kate stitch him up by telling this story, which also led her to not panic later on in the pilot... was all based on a lie. Great stuff.
Nardpuncher
Rear Admiral
Yep...she basically acts like a 15 year-old, and a bad one at that. She spends most of the time wallowing in self-pity.
Sawyer got her right in that one episode in season 4 I believe where they were in the barracks and she gets upset at him for being relieved she wasn't pregnant.
She said she was leaving and he said fine, you'll be back as you soon as you find a reason to be pissed off at Jack.
She did slap him though. Which would be typical for someone like her who's been stung by the truth.
God I love Sawyer! (You know what I mean!)
Ha, I remember that. That was a pretty fantastic Sawyer moment.
I could care less about Jake or Kate at this point. If they bite it, I wouldn't care so long as everyone else survive.
I loooove Sawyer, too.
Jack reminds me of the lead character in Nathaniel Hawthorne's "Birthmark." He's was a scientist obsessed with unlocking the secrets of the universe until he met a woman and fell in love. She's described in the story as the nearest thing to perfection mortal man has ever seen, with the exception of a tiny red hand-shaped birthmark on her cheek. Soon after they're married, the man grows obsessed with and repulsed by this one imperfection, and his love for her becomes perverted into a desire to use all his scientific knowledge to fix her and allow her to attain true perfection, and so then to achieve his own scientific goal -- to outdo the best effort of God and nature. But while sequestered at the man's laboratory as he works on a formula, the woman begins reading through the man's journals and discovers what seems to be failure after failure.
Exactly. That's exactly how he remembers the event, which makes it real. People always remember themselves in the best light possible.
Say what you want about Jack, but if he'd been in the Temple during the last episode I don't think things there would have gone to shit so fast.
Jack: "Sayid... I need to know you've got my back."
Sayid: "I don't." Stabs him.
Hurley: "Jack, Sayid just stabbed you!"
Jack (crumpled on the ground) "No, he didn't." Dies.
Sayid: "I don't." Stabs him.
Hurley: "Jack, Sayid just stabbed you!"
Jack (crumpled on the ground) "No, he didn't." Dies.
Since Jack basically saved Sayid's life (by telling him not to take the pill) somehow I doubt that'd happen.
But I take your point.
Actually, I had no point. I'm no Jack hater. Jus' messin'.Since Jack basically saved Sayid's life (by telling him not to take the pill) somehow I doubt that'd happen.
But I take your point.
Jack's the man. And so is(was 
) Sayid. He and Sayid are those only two survivors that ever had any common sense. Sawyer eventually came around, then went back downhill. Locke was always an angry little child who got manipulated by everyone he ever met. The less said about Kate the better. Hurley and Charlie were just comic relief. Claire was always useless. Sun & Jin were always about Sun and Jin (although Jin also had a lot of common sense and loyalty, unfortunately he was p-whipped by Sun). Desmond was also a good character, but he was also always on and on about Penny.
) Sayid. He and Sayid are those only two survivors that ever had any common sense. Sawyer eventually came around, then went back downhill. Locke was always an angry little child who got manipulated by everyone he ever met. The less said about Kate the better. Hurley and Charlie were just comic relief. Claire was always useless. Sun & Jin were always about Sun and Jin (although Jin also had a lot of common sense and loyalty, unfortunately he was p-whipped by Sun). Desmond was also a good character, but he was also always on and on about Penny.Similar threads
