I want Khan.

[Photoman15]

I don't want Nomad.
I don't want V'ger.
I don't want Khan.
I don't want Kruge.
I don't want Klaa.
I don't want Chang.
I don't want the Doomsday Machine.
Need I go on?
What I want is a good story and one that is new and fresh, not a retread of one we already saw.
This last movie showed us something we never saw and it was a blockbuster.
That's what I want.

 

[Photoman15]

Wait, Space Seed and TWOK were mediocre? Um, okaaaay...

Space Seed was okay. But it did teach me something when I was 8 that I kept. Study your enemy by watching his interactions with others.

TWOK was just great.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

If it's gonna be Khan, I'd like to see Naveen Andrews in the role. He could certainly portray a charismatic, supersmart leader who is able to attract followers by the force of his personality, and who doesn't need to rely on violence or thuggish behavior in the least. He would be absolutely fascinating and chilling in the role (assuming it was written well). Also, Andrews' ethnicity will quell any quibbling about political correctness, not that that's ever my biggest concern.

Montalban simply oozed danger and charisma, and defined the role so well it's hard to imagine anyone else even coming close.

Naveen Andrews would make Montalban look like a gumby bear. Montalban's performance was iconic partly because it had more than a tinge of campy showiness. That's one way to go, but it does undercut the seriousness of the role. So, to up the ante, get someone who actually is as fearsome and chilling as the role is apparently supposed to be. Someone who could wear a shirt with half his hairy chest showing and not elicit titters in the audience.

They sold the last one pretty well without Khan.

They had Kirk and Spock and Enterprise as their brand names. But they did that. Gotta up the ante for the next picture.

So yeah, it makes sense that they'd go with the best-known "brand name" that they haven't yet used.

I don't want Nomad.
I don't want V'ger.
I don't want Khan.
I don't want Kruge.
I don't want Klaa.
I don't want Chang.
I don't want the Doomsday Machine.

There's a Dr. Seuss poem in there somewhere...

 

[Hythlodeus]

Need I go on?

yes please. It might help, cause I'm still not sure what your point is..

 

[BillJ]

This last movie showed us something we never saw and it was a blockbuster.
That's what I want.

The last movie showed us a nut with an irrational hatred for a member of the crew and a doomsday weapon. Yeah, we've never seen that before.

 

[xortex]

No, she's talking about TOS being treated like crap. Have you ever seen Khan throw a Talosian over his head after wrestling the god like Gary Mitchell for control of the Enterprise? You see, that's new to you too. She likes it. More?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Yeah, something tells me these writers won't be showing the kind of restraint that TWOK showed, where Kirk and Khan never even met face to face.

That wasn't restraint, that was a scheduling constraint. More than one of the folks on the film said that it was a mistake not to have had the face-to-face confrontation, but Montalban - who was a bigger star and working regularly in television - wasn't available to shoot when Shatner was.

Haters gonna hate, whiners gonna whine I guess.

Online criticism is lazy and unimaginative - as a poster, I feel let down and mislead.

 

[Trekkie2]

This is surprising to me, all the negative reactions to Khan possibly being the villian. I've always believe Space Seed was amongst the favorite of episodes,a nd the WoK was amongst the top 2 or 3 favorites of the movies?

Since the Universe has been rebooted, they can pretty much go anywhere with Khan, so, even if we knew for a fact that Khan was the villian, we wouldn't know anything else, as they may go a completely different direction than what we know of Khan in Canon.

Maybe a fluffy and benevolent Khan bent on spreading peace and goodwill throughout the Federation.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54&feature=related[/yt]

 

[Photoman15]

This last movie showed us something we never saw and it was a blockbuster.
That's what I want.

The last movie showed us a nut with an irrational hatred for a member of the crew and a doomsday weapon. Yeah, we've never seen that before.

Sorry that's all you saw. When I said different, I meant, for one, destroying (and not resetting) a major Federation planet, in the "prime time line" destroying Romulus and a more emotional Spock. Yes, in the beginning of TOS Spock was more emotional, and in his (canon) past, he did have some relationship(s) (Jill Ireland), so it wasn't completely out of character, but this one went further.

As far as my "point", I don't want a new movie to rehash old (villain) characters or redo old stories. (The first examples I used were threats that are still out there irrelevant of the altered time line and then the villains of the TOS movies.)

 

[Saul]

This last movie showed us something we never saw and it was a blockbuster.
That's what I want.

The last movie showed us a nut with an irrational hatred for a member of the crew and a doomsday weapon. Yeah, we've never seen that before.

Sorry that's all you saw. When I said different, I meant, for one, destroying (and not resetting) a major Federation planet, in the "prime time line" destroying Romulus and a more emotional Spock. Yes, in the beginning of TOS Spock was more emotional, and in his (canon) past, he did have some relationship(s) (Jill Ireland), so it wasn't completely out of character, but this one went further.

As far as my "point", I don't want a new movie to rehash old (villain) characters or redo old stories. (The first examples I used were threats that are still out there irrelevant of the altered time line and then the villains of the TOS movies.)

Vulcan was destroyed in the alternate timeline which emo Spock states. So Vulcan exists in the prime timeline.

I think it's safe to say nobody wants a rehash of an old story but since anything can and could happen in this alternate new timeline that has been created by the 2009 film I think it's a safe bet we will be seeing something very interesting and exciting and I say that as someone who wasn't all that impressed by Trek 09.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

This last movie showed us something we never saw and it was a blockbuster.
That's what I want.

The last movie showed us a nut with an irrational hatred for a member of the crew and a doomsday weapon. Yeah, we've never seen that before.

Sorry that's all you saw. When I said different, I meant, for one, destroying (and not resetting) a major Federation planet, in the "prime time line" destroying Romulus and a more emotional Spock.

Actually, I assumed you just meant "a really entertaining, good movie that didn't look cheap."

 

[davejames]

Naveen Andrews would make Montalban look like a gumby bear. Montalban's performance was iconic partly because it had more than a tinge of campy showiness. That's one way to go, but it does undercut the seriousness of the role. So, to up the ante, get someone who actually is as fearsome and chilling as the role is apparently supposed to be. Someone who could wear a shirt with half his hairy chest showing and not elicit titters in the audience.

I didn't see anything campy about his performance in Space Seed. It was dark and intense as hell. And if he got a bit grandiose at times, that was only because he was allowing his old tyrant persona to come through.

I love Andrews and think he could be pretty smooth and chilling, but he doesn't really strike me as a powerful, dominating ruler type.

 

[davejames]

Yeah, something tells me these writers won't be showing the kind of restraint that TWOK showed, where Kirk and Khan never even met face to face.

That wasn't restraint, that was a scheduling constraint. More than one of the folks on the film said that it was a mistake not to have had the face-to-face confrontation, but Montalban - who was a bigger star and working regularly in television - wasn't available to shoot when Shatner was.

Ok maybe it wasn't planned that way, but much like the unseen shark in Jaws, having Kirk and Khan only communicating over a distance (like a couple of true commanders at war) now seems like a pretty smart and sophisticated move. At least to me.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Man, you do wear the goggles.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Man, you do wear the goggles.

No. His opinion simply differs from yours.

 

[Kemaiku]

Khan at the height of his abilities waking to the 23rd century?, that's got a hell of a lot of potential storyline wise, and the appeal of a familiar name with the audience without having to know anything other than 'badguy' when going to see it.

I'm intrigued and can't wait to see who they cast.

 

[davejames]

Man, you do wear the goggles.

Well you DO realize we're talking about space opera here, right? This isn't the gritty realism of Breaking Bad or The Wire.

Performances are going to be a bit more theatrical, and storylines a bit more simplistic. It just goes with the territory. Not sure what kind of lense you've been looking at Trek with.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ Lens flares?

 

[MichaelJCO]

If the new movie does feature Khan Im happy because JJ Abrahms is so good @ flashbacks.We might finally get to see some scenes for the canon-overt Eugenics War(s)