Rama: Wow you and your family actually watched it for 20 minutes! Nice! They must really love you, man! -- RR
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My wife could care less about directors, special FX houses, or writers, but she immediately noticed this movie was off somehow..and that's an understatement.
After I got my new 46" lcd TV the other day I re-watched large portions of STTMP and ST:NEMESIS...the 2 most cinematic Treks. Quite beautiful.
RAMA
Yup.
Me too. It's got faults, sure.
But there is a warmth to the characters in that movie that simply isn't there in some of the others. There is a real sense of family between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
Yup.
Me too. It's got faults, sure.
But there is a warmth to the characters in that movie that simply isn't there in some of the others. There is a real sense of family between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
I don't love the movie but I think it's got its plusses which makes it worth the occasional watch. The characterization is spot on especially between the big three. The special effects are subpar, the story somewhat implausible and there is a noticeable lack of attention to details such as the elevator numbering or budget cuts such as using season one TNG corridors.
More than any of the movies (except maybe Nemesis), TFF really could use a new Director's cut and reworked special effects like TMP got. Maybe for the Blu-Ray release? One can hope anyways.
Exactly. The Kirk/Spock/Bones interaction was at it's very best in TFF.
Yup.
Me too. It's got faults, sure.
But there is a warmth to the characters in that movie that simply isn't there in some of the others. There is a real sense of family between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
I don't love the movie but I think it's got its plusses which makes it worth the occasional watch. The characterization is spot on especially between the big three.
True, the interaction is there.
As dumb as parts of this are, I love the part where Kirk is beamed aboard the ship and spock turns around in the gunner's chair
"not in front of the klingons"
I honestly even find the marshmellon joke funny. rocket boots......just weird, always reminds me of a christopher reeve superman film.
As dumb as parts of this are, I love the part where Kirk is beamed aboard the ship and spock turns around in the gunner's chair
"not in front of the klingons"
I honestly even find the marshmellon joke funny. rocket boots......just weird, always reminds me of a christopher reeve superman film.
How people defend TFF and then knock Enterprise or DS9 or the TNG films is beyond me. The film is an absoulte piece of garbage, both as Trek and as a film. Just because Kirk, Spock, and McCoy make fart jokes doesn't make it a showcase for their famous relationship - watch TOS "The Empath", and then this garbage, and tell me that it "recaptures" the dynamic between them. And then Shatner uses the film to disparage the 4 supporting characters, having them act in ways that bear no resemblance to their prior established personas. Scotty and Uhura? Chekov and Sulu turned against Kirk in a half a minute? And if you are a canon-o-phile, you don't even want to broach the subject. If you knock Enterprise and praise this garbage, you are, to say the least, inconsistant.
I love it too. It's fun. And siskokid888, I am a confirmed Niner.True, the interaction is there.
As dumb as parts of this are, I love the part where Kirk is beamed aboard the ship and spock turns around in the gunner's chair
"not in front of the klingons"
I honestly even find the marshmellon joke funny. rocket boots......just weird, always reminds me of a christopher reeve superman film.
^I didn't mean to imply that everyone that likes this movie also knocks DS9. I have seen posters gush over TFF, and then knock Enterprise or DS9 for "canon violations" or for not having the "spirit"of Trek or whatever, and ignore the same things they are accusing those shows of in this film. (And I use the term "film" in the ironic sense).
People take this film way to seriously. It is only a movie, and it was fun entertainment. I'm kind of tired of reading all these posts people saying it is bad. It's campy, I agree, but it's not bad.
^ Honestly, I'm sure that a remastered edition with new FX shots would change the minds of a lot of people about this movie overall.
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Amaris
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I love it too. It's fun. And siskokid888, I am a confirmed Niner.True, the interaction is there.
As dumb as parts of this are, I love the part where Kirk is beamed aboard the ship and spock turns around in the gunner's chair
"not in front of the klingons"
I honestly even find the marshmellon joke funny. rocket boots......just weird, always reminds me of a christopher reeve superman film.
Amen!
Maybe it's just that I see the movie at it's heart, what it wanted to be. I love the interactions between the Big Three, I loved Lawrence Luckinbill as Sybok. I think new SFX would only give it a coat of paint. It would prettier for everyone else, but for me it would change nothing essential. I love Trek V. Always will.
J.
Exactly. The Kirk/Spock/Bones interaction was at it's very best in TFF.Yup.
Me too. It's got faults, sure.
But there is a warmth to the characters in that movie that simply isn't there in some of the others. There is a real sense of family between Kirk, Spock and McCoy.
I don't love the movie but I think it's got its plusses which makes it worth the occasional watch. The characterization is spot on especially between the big three.
The characterization was completely off....there wasn't a SINGLE character who was left unscathed by Shatner's incompetence. Spock unfortunately was the worst....he was disloyal to his captain! You can sense Nimoy's discomfort in every scene, which led to an uncharacteristically indifferent performance--just compare him to STVI. The campfire scene was so badly written it could have come out of a Police Academy movie.
For a true look at ST characterization, look at Where No One Has Gone Before, STII, STIII, STIV, Amok Time, Tholian Web, et al.
RAMA
Only if we can CGI in a new script!
trevanian
Rear Admiral
Ohyeah, because using conventional non-digital techniques for providing a script is so outdated, it makes a movie seem (to you) like tos before the -r got barfed onto it.
Yes, but how many analogue methods of rewriting a script can work after the fact?
...what's that? CGI can't do that either? Oh.
Carry on, men!
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