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I Thought Vulcan Had No Moon

Except, Vulcanians don't lie or bluff.
But they do fabricate false subspace radio messages from their former captains, diverting them to Starbase 11. They also fabricate false orders putting themselves in command claiming that their current captain has been given medical rest leave and abduct their former captain to transport him to the one forbidden world in all the galaxy.

But they don't lie or bluff.
They exaggerate.
 
But they do fabricate false subspace radio messages from their former captains, diverting them to Starbase 11. They also fabricate false orders putting themselves in command claiming that their current captain has been given medical rest leave and abduct their former captain to transport him to the one forbidden world in all the galaxy.

But they don't lie or bluff.
They exaggerate.
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I thought Vulcan was a desert planet. Did they terraform it?
It definitely looked very different and a lot more watery than it did previously. Possibly ex-Romulan terraforming? Vulcans have changed their name and identity, it's possible they'd alter their world itself too.
 
Vulcan had plenty of shallow seas in ENT. And a rather uniform color in TNG era space shots (even if the particular color changed from episode to episode), probably courtesy of dust storms that hid the seas.

I guess there could be radical changes to the contours of those bodies of water if their depth changed by a couple of meters, whether due to seasons or Vulcanoid intervention. No onscreen map of the planet would need be considered less authoritative than another, then. But the one hovering over Vance's as-needed desk doesn't exactly highlight seas or other identifiable landmarks.

Lots of green this time around, only in the upper atmosphere...

Timo Saloniemi
 
This should be in the Movie Forum because, clear as night, Vulcan had a moon in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

they retconned that in the special addition. They took it out with the new effects. So yeah it has no moon since the directors cut but now it looks like discovery is changing it just like they have changed everything about TOS.
 
I do believe I am seeing cities in the portion of Vulcan which is in darkness.

They love populating the space around planets with other bodies, in Lower Decks and in Discovery. Sometimes I have experienced confusion on whether that body is another planet or a moon. It was surprising to me that they did not show Saturn or Earth with moons.
 
FWIW, the companion body in "Unification III" is vaguely reddish, but with prominent white areas, and is truly gigantic (or then so proximal to Ni'Var that the planet ought to be shaped like a teardrop now). All of this nicely matches both TMP and TAS, so full points for continuity there...

Timo Saloniemi
 
FWIW, the companion body in "Unification III" is vaguely reddish, but with prominent white areas, and is truly gigantic (or then so proximal to Ni'Var that the planet ought to be shaped like a teardrop now). All of this nicely matches both TMP and TAS, so full points for continuity there...

Timo Saloniemi
:wah:But that's not the continuity I like!!!!! :wah:
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they retconned that in the special addition. They took it out with the new effects. So yeah it has no moon since the directors cut but now it looks like discovery is changing it just like they have changed everything about TOS.
TMP wasn't the only thing to show planets/moons. Discovery didn't do shit. It's consistent with previous depictions.

Some pictures of the planet, sister planet, moon(s), oceans and aurora borealis:

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Although some desert areas remain, the planet is different.
The hologram at the start, it looks like half the planet is still very deserty.

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It's another case where DSC excels in consistency by highlighting inconsistency. Klingons always look different; DSC stays true to that. The thing darkening the skies above Shi'Kahr either is there or not; DSC supports the ambiguity in full. Spock is emotional or stoic, in DSC just like everywhere else.

What I worry about is the fate of the third body in the setup. It's there between Vulcan and this visitor in TMP. It's there again in "Lethe". Where is it in "Unification III"?

Timo Saloniemi
 
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