I think my girlfriend is a Christian! Advice needed.

[Bisz]

My advice to Madbaggins is to float the idea of a threesome to her. If she's up for it, then you know she's not a Christian. If she's not, then maybe you can talk her into it and condemn her to Hell anyway. Either way, you've wrangled an orgy out of it.

In keeping with his 007 approach to figuring this out I would recommend he not call it a "threesome", I would go with "holy trinity" instead.

 

[ThankQ]

Ideally I'd want to teach her about atheism without her even knowing I'm doing it, like leaving little atheist clues around for her to find, like breadcrumbs. But this sounds hard.

I've been thinking about doing the same thing. Would you mind sharing some of your "breadcrumb" ideas?

 

[DonIago]

^^Along those same lines MB, I would be curious to know whether your crush du jour has ever entered an Inner Beauty Pageant and how she fared.

 

[Balrog]

She sounds like a real tightass, MB. Most evangelical Christians I've run across are this way. You might want to let that type of crazy go.

But OTOH, she might be a real pistol in the sack. A little crazy ain't always so bad...

 

[Gov Kodos]

My advice to Madbaggins is to float the idea of a threesome to her. If she's up for it, then you know she's not a Christian. If she's not, then maybe you can talk her into it and condemn her to Hell anyway. Either way, you've wrangled an orgy out of it.

(Whether it's two guys or two girls is your prerogative, of course.)

How could Christians be against the trinity?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

My advice to Madbaggins is to float the idea of a threesome to her. If she's up for it, then you know she's not a Christian. If she's not, then maybe you can talk her into it and condemn her to Hell anyway. Either way, you've wrangled an orgy out of it.

(Whether it's two guys or two girls is your prerogative, of course.)

How could Christians be against the trinity?

Somebody already made that joke, sorry.

 

[Gov Kodos]

My advice to Madbaggins is to float the idea of a threesome to her. If she's up for it, then you know she's not a Christian. If she's not, then maybe you can talk her into it and condemn her to Hell anyway. Either way, you've wrangled an orgy out of it.

(Whether it's two guys or two girls is your prerogative, of course.)

How could Christians be against the trinity?

Somebody already made that joke, sorry.

Ninjas, I can never forgive them for killing my joke.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I've thought doing this, but I'd have to be really subtle. She's quite strong-willed and stubborn and would try to argue with me if I just came out and told her the facts about her beliefs. Ideally I'd want to teach her about atheism without her even knowing I'm doing it, like leaving little atheist clues around for her to find, like breadcrumbs. But this sounds hard.

If she is an evangelical christian she will also be leaving you christian clues like breadcrumbs, hoping you get intrigued and lured into her beliefs.

 

[Guartho]

I forget, how did season 4 end?

 

[Satyrquaze]

I forget, how did season 4 end?

With Worf resigning his commision and joining the Klingon Empire.

Odo was made a human by the Founders and The Klingons all but declared war.

Arturis tried to get Voyager assimilated with a fake Federation Starship.

Riker and Troi went into the holodeck because Riker got butthurt.

 

[JarodRussell]

The problem isn't the religion, the problem is the evangelical part. There are also evangelical vegans, tree-huggers, non-smokers, anti-alcoholics, leftists, rightist, racists, Trekkies. It's impossible to be in a relationship with any of them.

 

[Amaris]

Since last year I have been attending classes at the local community college in an attempt to better myself. I didn't go in expecting to make friends, as many of the people there were a lot older than me or a bit strange, but I have actually ended up making some good friends! But there was one girl in some of my classes who I never talked to much. Even though she was hot I wasn't sure if I liked her as she always seemed a bit smug and haughty. One time I nearly walked into her in a corridor and she tutted and said "watch it!" She sounded serious so I said "NO" at her face. She looked a bit surprised then just kind of backed away. I think she respected me after that. We had a few similar run-ins over the next few weeks and each time I felt relationships softening, even though I still wasn't sure if I even liked her.

One day I had forgotten to bring a pen to class and I was looking for a pen and I thought my friend was standing there and I asked him for a pen. But it wans't my friend, it was the girl and she gave me a pen! So smiled at me as I did so! It was then that I realized what I had thought had been annoyance had actually been a sexual attraction. I smiled back and from that day on we began talking to each other about our classes and even other things.

One day she was sitting near me talking to two girls she is friends with and I was listening. She was talking about how she was going to church after class to help out with a food collection for homeless people and asking if the two girls wanted to come. They both said they had prior engagements (I'm 99.9999% sure they were lying) and the girl looked sad. I instantly blurted out "I'll help you!" She looked surprised and her true friends looked at each other and I think rolled their eyes but I couldn't see. I quickly explained that I used to work at a soup kitchen with my aunt and I had experience and could be useful if things got tough with the homeless. She laughed (told you she was warming to me) and said she'd be fine but if I wanted to come along I was welcome. I knew it wasn't a date but I couldn't help feeling like it was!

We got on great at the church. I told her about all my experiences (with a few selective edits lol!) and she listened and I could tell she was seeing a new side to me and liking it. I went to the church with her several times after that. I worked really hard and it impressed her. We started hanging around each other all the time (at college and on the way to the church.) I eventually plucked up the courage to ask her if she wanted to do something outside of education/charity work and she said definitely when she wasn't too busy. I held her hand for a few moments after that.

But then I began to suspect she might be a Christian.

When I'd asked her how she'd found out about the food collection she'd said she'd learned it "at church". That was my first clue. My second clue came when one of our professors told a joke about Adam and Eve. Everyone in the class laughed (even the muslim guy I'm friends with!) but she just looked pissed off, like her old haughty self before I dressed her down in that corridor.

The thing is, a few months ago I was a gnostic and wouldn't have cared if she was a Christian, a jew or even a Satanist. But late last year my friend Karissa started sending me links to Richard Dawkings videos on YouTube and they changed my LIFE. Even though at first I thought he was just a jerk I came to find that the truths he spoked were undeniable and that all Christians are seriously deluded. I couldn't believe I was so passive about it before. I even plan on reading his books. Yes I believe in living and letting living, but if I'm going to date a girl then I have to be thinking long terms and there's no way I'd want to raise children with someone with who I have such fundamental differences with and whose beliefs I can't respect. And yet she is a really nice person and I really do love spending time with her. I even enjoy helping the needy when I'm around her. She makes everything feel good. But what do I do when religion comes up as it inevitably will? I don't want to hurt her by explaining why everything she believes in is wrong. What if she took it badly and didn't even except my arguments? But I can't be with her much longer with this huge elephant coming between us. I can feel it gnawing at me everytime I'm around her now. It's bound to come up soon!

What should I do? Has anyone here ever had a similar problem?

Did you ever consider that maybe she's pretending to be a Christian, as to see if you're a Christian also? For all I know, you could be pretending to be an atheist. Surely there's some kind of blood test or something.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The problem isn't the religion, the problem is the evangelical part. There are also evangelical vegans, tree-huggers, non-smokers, anti-alcoholics leftists, rightist, racists, Trekkies. It's impossible to be in a relationship with either of them.

"Any" of them.

 

[JarodRussell]

The problem isn't the religion, the problem is the evangelical part. There are also evangelical vegans, tree-huggers, non-smokers, anti-alcoholics leftists, rightist, racists, Trekkies. It's impossible to be in a relationship with either of them.

"Any" of them.

Indeed.

 

[Kalontas]

By reading the thread it feels like I missed a lot...

Anyway. Considering the OP is a made up story (as testified by the thread), the original poster may be agreeing with me in that Richard Dawkins and his ilk are a real danger to modern society - because of people like the OP's "character" in his story. Yeah, those people really exist. Why are they so dangerous? Because they wrap their prejudices and close-mindedness in a box made of science and logic. They're still horrible people who persecute those who're unlike them, except they do it while using imagery of something impartial. To me, they're no better than religious fundamentalists - yeah, Dawkins is IMO about as dangerous as Al Qaeda. Feel free to disagree with this sentiment, but for Pete's sake, do not post about it here, because all it will cause will be furious argument, and we don't want that.

Temperance and tolerance is what everybody should look out for. You should not care what others do with their time or beliefs, as long as they don't harm you or people you care about. I wouldn't give a damn if a girl I like was Christian, atheist, Muslim, Jewish or Hindu. The only problems I'd have would be various crack cults I won't mention.
And Wicca. I can't treat seriously people who call themselves "witches". But that's just my personal opinion.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

By reading the thread it feels like I missed a lot...

Anyway. Considering the OP is a made up story (as testified by the thread),

We don't know that. Just because a person is an embellisher or has a flare for the subtle dramas of a story doesn't mean it's made up.

Dawkins is IMO about as dangerous as Al Qaeda.

I have personally lost loved ones due to the actions of Dawkins so yes I completely agree.

Feel free to disagree with this sentiment, but for Pete's sake, do not post about it here, because all it will cause will be furious argument, and we don't want that.

We don't?

 

[ThankQ]

By reading the thread it feels like I missed a lot...

Anyway. Considering the OP is a made up story (as testified by the thread), the original poster may be agreeing with me in that Richard Dawkins and his ilk are a real danger to modern society - because of people like the OP's "character" in his story. Yeah, those people really exist. Why are they so dangerous? Because they wrap their prejudices and close-mindedness in a box made of science and logic. They're still horrible people who persecute those who're unlike them, except they do it while using imagery of something impartial. To me, they're no better than religious fundamentalists - yeah, Dawkins is IMO about as dangerous as Al Qaeda. Feel free to disagree with this sentiment, but for Pete's sake, do not post about it here, because all it will cause will be furious argument, and we don't want that.

Temperance and tolerance is what everybody should look out for. You should not care what others do with their time or beliefs, as long as they don't harm you or people you care about. I wouldn't give a damn if a girl I like was Christian, atheist, Muslim, Jewish or Hindu. The only problems I'd have would be various crack cults I won't mention.
And Wicca. I can't treat seriously people who call themselves "witches". But that's just my personal opinion.

A lot of cadets coming out blazing these days!


Time for chili! Who loves mothers?

 

[T'Bonz]

Wait, you're the Christian chick?

I sense much win in you.

I nominate this for PotD!

Y'all can BITE ME.

I'm a Christian chick who would fix Baggins but good. I'd invite JWs and Mormons over and anyone who would try to convert him. I'd deliberate choose those who would never, ever give up and I'd set up a betting pool on how long it would take 'til he'd run away screaming!

 

[iguana_tonante]

yeah, Dawkins is IMO about as dangerous as Al Qaeda.

Lulz.

Feel free to disagree with this sentiment, but for Pete's sake, do not post about it here, because all it will cause will be furious argument, and we don't want that.

The irony of this is... no, not delicious. Kind of bland, really.

 

[DonIago]

(goes to make popcorn while waiting for the furious argument)