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I swear that's an NX class they're flying in the new trailer!
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Nope. Warp 3 was the next hurdle to overcome with NX-Delta being the first to do so. That's onscreen fact.
There's plenty of wriggle room for things to have happened in the five years between NX-Delta's flight and the start of Enterprise's construction, including an interim ship that broke Warp 4 and even a test-fit article for the NX-class (even the real space shuttle had a test-fit article--Pathfinder wasn't an actual shuttle, just a crude 1:1 stand-in for facility measurement purposes, but it was nonetheless retroactively given a name and number). Something similar could have happened with the NX-class. Or it could have simply been a case that the NX-class was named after the NX Program as it came from that.
Which movie did they refer to Archer? I probably missed it haha
It's in the scene on Delta Vega where Kirk and oldSpock first meet Scotty:
I'm going to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that perhaps they hadn't read every page of every thread in this forum, and thus might have missed the parts where the Franklin concept art was discussed.
I saw at least one person - can't remember who at the moment - that knew about the concept art but suggested that for the actual film an NX-Class model had been used. Personally, I do think that what I'm seeing from production shots looks a lot more like an NX than it does that concept art - but I haven't seen enough clear shots to know that's actually what it is or isn't. Maybe the ship the modelers made after working with the concept art just looks a lot like an NX. Or maybe time or budget constraints, or a director's decision, caused them to actually use an NX model and just make some adjustments? We shall see.
Yes. Instead of using their existing concept art to create a super-hi res cinema quality CGI model, they would logically save time by using other existing artwork to create an all new hi res CGI model.
It's Star Trek. Some ships look similar. The Centaur had a saucer and some nacelles pinned to it. Didn't make it a Miranda class. I'm sure in 80 years between the Kelvin going boom and the launch of the NX Class, there were other ships out there.
It's Star Trek. Some ships look similar. The Centaur had a saucer and some nacelles pinned to it. Didn't make it a Miranda class. I'm sure in 80 years between the Kelvin going boom and the launch of the NX Class, there were other ships out there.
I think you might be referring to KingDaniel, but that's not actually what he said. What he said was that it's possible that this could represent a re-imagining of the NX-01 design, even though the regular NX-01 was featured as a model in Admiral Marcus' office in STID. Personally, I think that's highly unlikely, though the ship is clearly meant to be a close relative or follow-on to the NX design due to its many similarities.
Here is an annotated comparison of the concept model of the Franklin, screencaps of the Franklin from the trailer, and the NX-01 which should make the differences more clear. I also included an unmarked version in the thumbnail.
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We've seen enough ships looking like others that I am certain this is NOT a NX-class. Sure, it's possible that some ship designer in Starfleet thought, let's take that design and improve on it for the 23rd century, and it looks a lot like it. But certainly not a re-imagined NX-class, like how the Enterprise is a re-imagined Constitution class.
Just wait until the penultimate battle scene, in which Kirk kicks Krall in the face saying "I... Have had.... Enough of... You!!".
"Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out! "
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We can only hope.
It is amusing to make the three films fit with the first TOS three, even if it takes a bit of squeezing and contorting.
Movie 1: An unknown anomaly in space brings the crew together.
Movie 2: They face Khan, and suffer the death of a main character. (Who doesn't stay dead.)
Movie 3: The Enterprise is destroyed, so the crew take command of a smaller ship.
...Movie 4: When Earth is threatened by an inscrutable force, Kirk and crew must go to extreme lengths to save it?
You're right - that helps. Thanks.
The tubes are the most important part of the ship - didn't you know that? They are load-bearing structures!The guy is the lead designer of the first Warp 5 ship, and he only get tubes named after him?
Damn, I was hoping that was a link.
In fairness, unless they had those tubes, nothing would have been fixed and the Enterprise would have been destroyed a million times over.
What's onscreen fact is that the Warp Five superengine first achieved warp 3 when bolted onto the NX-Delta test rig. Nothing there to say other ship types wouldn't have been doing warp 4 already - indeed, it's likely the Earthlings knew for a fact in 2100 already that many, many ships out there were doing warp 7, and that some supposedly did warp 29, but all were way above their price range.
Jet engines were first tested on aircraft that did poorly compared with the propeller planes of the day. It probably is what's going on with the NX project test rigs, too, with the slight modification that while Frank Whittle is testing his first poorly performing jets with much faster prop planes as chase birds, Brazilian hypersonic spy planes and Moldovan spysats are watching... And Whittle is watching those with envy. Trek doesn't do linear - it does a slow climb to First Contact, after which the sky no longer is a limit.
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Which is what I said a couple of times earlier about proving the Warp Five engine.
Yes, that was his name. Prime Universe Scotty, never one to settle down, developed a method of crossing over to the alternate universe to retrieve old Spock, who had found a way to communicate with him from New Vulcan. Unfortunately, a cosmic string bounced off the Quantum Flux Capacitor while he was making the jump and Scotty was flung back in time to the mid-22nd century, where he helped Starfleet develop an advanced scout ship based off of the NX Class, which he decided to name after that dead redshirt he barely knew before they shared a transporter buffer for 70 years.
Or, here's a crazy alternative theory: they named it after someone much more famous from history named Franklin.
And now I can just imagine any of the various redshirts from TOS, especially the ones from engineering being all "but Scotty, we actually worked together for months/weeks/days. Why isn't the ship named after me?"
"Sorry lad, when you share a transporter buffer for decades, it creates a bond between to men which transcends the brotherhood of shipmates."
