I strongly feel Star Trek 2009 will be better than Star Wars 7

[BillJ]

And yet, all your desires go unrequited. As much as one might like to say otherwise, there's no objective reality here. I loved both the films and found them to be both action-packed and engrossing on a character level. Much like TOS, now that I think of it...

This. The movies are fun to watch.

 

[Jedi_Master]

To the OP: thanks for sharing. It will be interesting to see what armed and primed fan war camps are set up before the film's first screening.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

I'm hoping both are excellent films so I can enjoy myself when I'm sitting in the theatre.

This.

 

[BillJ]

The Force Awakens trailer looks pretty slick.

 

[The Doctor]

The Force Awakens trailer looks pretty slick.

Zoiks. It's everything that my inner-10-year-old wants.

 

[xavier]

The Force Awakens trailer looks pretty slick.

Zoiks. It's everything that my inner-10-year-old wants.

exactly, the new trailer has Disney written all over it. I was more impressed with the teaser trailer for trek 2009. I don't think Disney should have bought star wars and I sure hope they keep their hands of star trek.

most people hate the prequels for beens to kids friendly and been kid friendly in a badway. well what do you think the outcome of the new films will be now with Disney pulling all the strings?

watching that trailer for episode 7 only makes me more convinced that JJ Abrams should have just done star trek 3 but no JJ had to choose the more popular franchise ,the franchise that get more media attention and the franchise that the public view as ''cooler''.

JJ Abrams choosing episode 7 over star trek 3 reminds me of the kid in high school who on his first day, chooses by default to hang out with popular and rich good looking kids over the nerds without evening getting a chance to know all the kids in school before he can choose the people who will actually be good friends to him. Abram's clearly chose episode 7 for shallow and superficial reasons.

 

[BillJ]

Abram's clearly chose episode 7 for shallow and superficial reasons.

Or maybe because he has been a big fan since the original trilogy came out? The rest of your post is non-sense. Forgot about the Ewoks have we?

 

[Franklin]

At times I think there must two different versions of the Abrams movies and that certain fans have only scene one or the other. The Abrams movies are not heartfelt character pieces delivering emotional resonance, nor are they profound commentaries on current events and affairs. They are loud, flashy action movies fueled by explosions and cheap one-liners.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. If that's your thing, than by all means I can understand enjoying these movies, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't entertained on some level. But at least be honest about it, and don't try passing the movies off as something they aren't.

+1. All I've ever asked.

And yet, all your desires go unrequited. As much as one might like to say otherwise, there's no objective reality here. I loved both the films and found them to be both action-packed and engrossing on a character level. Much like TOS, now that I think of it...

+1

There are some very divergent interpretations of exactly the same movie. Wouldn't that mean that to at least some extent, the movie is textured and not one-dimensional?

-- Trek stories were never profound commentaries on anything, so I'd dismiss that criticism out of hand.

-- As others had said, if the budgets had existed back then, the other TOS movies would've probably been more whizz-bang. Imagine how the battles between the Reliant and the Enterprise in TWOK might have been shot with twice the budget for FX. Probably loud. Probably flashy. Probably more of it.

-- All Trek has been full of cheap one-liners (and quotes from Shakespeare). The delivery of them and the context makes them work or not.

-- There is no emotional resonance at all in Spock's feelings dealing with the loss of Vulcan, in Kirk's story arc, or in what Khan had been willing to do to keep his people alive? Issues of loss, grief, and coping are shallow?

 

[Jedi_Master]

exactly, the new trailer has Disney written all over it...... I was more impressed with the teaser trailer for trek 2009....... Abram's clearly chose episode 7 for shallow and superficial reasons.

No. Nope. Nein. Nee. Jo. La. Voch'. Dey'il. Ez. N'ie. Ne. Nej. Ei. Non. Ara. Ohee. Pa. Lo. Nahi. Nem. Tidak. Nai. Aniyo. Noon. No.

 

[Franklin]

According to Time, rather than just showing it before a feature, a theater in Austin, Texas is screening the SW teaser in a separate theater of its own where it will run seventeen times in a row. Each screening is followed by a two minute panel discussion consisting of SW experts who will dissect and analyze what they just saw. Wow. I don't think there was anything like that done by Trek fans for "Under Construction".

Link (no spoilers):

http://time.com/3608905/star-wars-trailer-episode/

 

[Ovation]

+1. All I've ever asked.

And yet, all your desires go unrequited. As much as one might like to say otherwise, there's no objective reality here. I loved both the films and found them to be both action-packed and engrossing on a character level. Much like TOS, now that I think of it...

+1

There are some very divergent interpretations of exactly the same movie. Wouldn't that mean that to at least some extent, the movie is textured and not one-dimensional?

-- Trek stories were never profound commentaries on anything, so I'd dismiss that criticism out of hand.

-- As others had said, if the budgets had existed back then, the other TOS movies would've probably been more whizz-bang. Imagine how the battles between the Reliant and the Enterprise in TWOK might have been shot with twice the budget for FX. Probably loud. Probably flashy. Probably more of it.

-- All Trek has been full of cheap one-liners (and quotes from Shakespeare). The delivery of them and the context makes them work or not.

-- There is no emotional resonance at all in Spock's feelings dealing with the loss of Vulcan, in Kirk's story arc, or in what Khan had been willing to do to keep his people alive? Issues of loss, grief, and coping are shallow?

Nailed it.

 

[Smellmet]

The Force Awakens trailer looks pretty slick.

It didn't show a great deal, but seeing the falcon soar again made me drool. I love that ship nearly as much as the Enterprise.

You can see the JJ Flare at work but it looked great in the falcon scenes, and the bits with the guy in the desert looked filmed like the original trilogy. It's raised my hopes for the movie, no question.

Will it be better than ST09? Or ST3 for that matter? It's got a good chance.

 

[suarezguy]

I suspected before, and still think after seeing the trailer, that the new Star Wars will be received by critics and audiences very similarly to ST09 (the former a little less pleased and the latter a bit more).

 

[WarpFactorZ]

To even suggest that any Star Trek film will out-perform a Star Wars movie is, well, nonsensical.

 

[Franklin]

To even suggest that any Star Trek film will out-perform a Star Wars movie is, well, nonsensical.

Yep. It's in another league.

Especially with Disney behind its marketing, and with Abrams out front promoting it, I don't think it's very foolish to believe the new SW movie could put up numbers close to "Avatar", "Titanic" or at least "Avengers".

 

[Smellmet]

It's got to be looking at a bare minimum 150mil opening weekend, if the third and so far least well received Hunger Games film can put in 121mil then I reckon The Avengers record of 207 mil is a possibility and Iron Man 3's 174mil 2nd best opening weekend is definitely under threat. There's no getting away from it - this is going to be a seriously massive film that a lot of the public will go and see, no question.

Everyone who I know from a wide age group has been talking about the release of this trailer today, let alone the actual release.

Not that I feel that box office numbers are a barometer of quality, I am just interested nonetheless.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

To even suggest that any Star Trek film will out-perform a Star Wars movie is, well, nonsensical.

Yep. It's in another league.

Exactly. To further my previous point: Star Wars has at least three generations of fans behind it. Almost 40 years. Yes, Trek has been around longer and has definitely had an impact. But the cultural impact of Star Wars went beyond the relatively small "Trekie" fan base. It touched the entire world with its paradigm-shifting presentation and brought accessible science fiction to the broad masses.

Trek will never match this magnitude of impact.

 

[Smellmet]

To even suggest that any Star Trek film will out-perform a Star Wars movie is, well, nonsensical.

As much as it pains me to admit it, and as much as I love the new movies, I have serious doubts that ST3 will better STID's numbers. I'd love it to do over 600mil but I think that is the ceiling figure.

People seem to forget that even though some people consider STID's numbers to be disappointing, it has still done better that Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, and matched X-Men: Days of Future Past domestically, and these have both done over 700mil worldwide. I think Star Trek at the big screen is at the peak of it's possibility at around 500 million. And that's nothing to be ashamed of.

I can see Episode 7 doing 1-1.5 billion no problem.

 

[CorporalClegg]

It's got to be looking at a bare minimum 150mil opening weekend, if the third and so far least well received Hunger Games film can put in 121mil then I reckon The Avengers record of 207 mil is a possibility and Iron Man 3's 174mil 2nd best opening weekend is definitely under threat. There's no getting away from it - this is going to be a seriously massive film that a lot of the public will go and see, no question.

The Force Awakens is going to stuff Avatar down a sarlacc.

 

[Relayer1]

To even suggest that any Star Trek film will out-perform a Star Wars movie is, well, nonsensical.

Yep. It's in another league.

Exactly. To further my previous point: Star Wars has at least three generations of fans behind it. Almost 40 years. Yes, Trek has been around longer and has definitely had an impact. But the cultural impact of Star Wars went beyond the relatively small "Trekie" fan base. It touched the entire world with its paradigm-shifting presentation and brought accessible science fiction to the broad masses.

Trek will never match this magnitude of impact.

I'm not so sure - Trek's insidious. It's seeped into the public conciousness without the mega success of Star Wars. It's influenced the design of all sorts of real world gadgets and I wouldn't be hugely surprised if you showed non scifi fans in the street photo's of characters Kirk and Solo, if more of them could name Kirk.

And no, Trek will never be in anywhere the same league as SW at the box office.

It's got to be looking at a bare minimum 150mil opening weekend, if the third and so far least well received Hunger Games film can put in 121mil then I reckon The Avengers record of 207 mil is a possibility and Iron Man 3's 174mil 2nd best opening weekend is definitely under threat. There's no getting away from it - this is going to be a seriously massive film that a lot of the public will go and see, no question.

The Force Awakens is going to stuff Avatar down a sarlacc.

Very probably.