I still...cry

[K'Ehleyr]

Absolutely the best to cry for episode. Another excellent example of when Picard stands up for his crew. The Lal in ten forward was hilarious "he is eating that human" (may not be correct quote).
Grant ~ you must start the 'best weepy moment' thread!
RR ~ you can help

and yes I am feeling particularly bossy this evening

 

[Dane_Whitman]

Absolutely the best to cry for episode. Another excellent example of when Picard stands up for his crew. The Lal in ten forward was hilarious "he is eating that human" (may not be correct quote).

He's biting that female!

 

[K'Ehleyr]

Absolutely the best to cry for episode. Another excellent example of when Picard stands up for his crew. The Lal in ten forward was hilarious "he is eating that human" (may not be correct quote).

He's biting that female!

That's the one ~ thank you!

btw ~ love your Av

 

[Cyke101]

What gets me is Admiral Haftel. He's built up as the episode's villain, everyone fears his arrival and is ready to take him on on philosophical and ethical levels...

...but when Lal is in trouble, he and Data team up to try and save her for hours. And when they fail, you can see Haftel struggling to keep himself from losing it. He describes the speed of Data's hands trying in vain to keep her alive, the desperation of both men, and he has to tell Data's friends that they failed, and he struggles to say it, struggles to maintain his composure.

That's what gets me about this episode. It turned a "villain" into a failed protagonist and he himself, like the android he tried to take away, becomes a source of sadness and sympathy, too.

Major kudos to Nicholas Coster for his guest appearance -- the transition from arrogant admiral to concerned father was handled effortlessly and smoothly.

 

[K'Ehleyr]

What gets me is Admiral Haftel. He's built up as the episode's villain, everyone fears his arrival and is ready to take him on on philosophical and ethical levels...

...but when Lal is in trouble, he and Data team up to try and save her for hours. And when they fail, you can see Haftel struggling to keep himself from losing it. He describes the speed of Data's hands trying in vain to keep her alive, the desperation of both men, and he has to tell Data's friends that they failed, and he struggles to say it, struggles to maintain his composure.

That's what gets me about this episode. It turned a "villain" into a failed protagonist and he himself, like the android he tried to take away, becomes a source of sadness and sympathy, too.

Major kudos to Nicholas Coster for his guest appearance -- the transition from arrogant admiral to concerned father was handled effortlessly and smoothly.

Absolutely ~ brilliant acting

 

[Sakrysta]

I watched "Skin of Evil" this afternoon, and I couldn't see what I was doing, because I kept tearing up during Tasha's goodbye.

 

[RobertScorpio]

What gets me is Admiral Haftel. He's built up as the episode's villain, everyone fears his arrival and is ready to take him on on philosophical and ethical levels...

...but when Lal is in trouble, he and Data team up to try and save her for hours. And when they fail, you can see Haftel struggling to keep himself from losing it. He describes the speed of Data's hands trying in vain to keep her alive, the desperation of both men, and he has to tell Data's friends that they failed, and he struggles to say it, struggles to maintain his composure.

That's what gets me about this episode. It turned a "villain" into a failed protagonist and he himself, like the android he tried to take away, becomes a source of sadness and sympathy, too.

Major kudos to Nicholas Coster for his guest appearance -- the transition from arrogant admiral to concerned father was handled effortlessly and smoothly.

Absolutely ~ brilliant acting

Yes, that is the great part of that episode. His final line, I think, is "it just wasn't meant to be" was great...but so where his villain moments in the conference room with Picard.

And kudos to Picard for finally growing a set of balls. I seriously thought Picard was going actually get mad, and raise his voice!

Rob

 

[ThereR4Lites]

What gets me is Admiral Haftel. He's built up as the episode's villain, everyone fears his arrival and is ready to take him on on philosophical and ethical levels...

...but when Lal is in trouble, he and Data team up to try and save her for hours. And when they fail, you can see Haftel struggling to keep himself from losing it. He describes the speed of Data's hands trying in vain to keep her alive, the desperation of both men, and he has to tell Data's friends that they failed, and he struggles to say it, struggles to maintain his composure.

That's what gets me about this episode. It turned a "villain" into a failed protagonist and he himself, like the android he tried to take away, becomes a source of sadness and sympathy, too.

Major kudos to Nicholas Coster for his guest appearance -- the transition from arrogant admiral to concerned father was handled effortlessly and smoothly.

Absolutely ~ brilliant acting

Yes, that is the great part of that episode. His final line, I think, is "it just wasn't meant to be" was great...but so where his villain moments in the conference room with Picard.

And kudos to Picard for finally growing a set of balls. I seriously thought Picard was going actually get mad, and raise his voice!

Rob

Picard did all his yelling in the first season. 'Shut up Wesley!' and so forth, haha.

This is definitely one of the shining lights of TNG. Has anyone else noticed that most of the amazing episodes are Brent Spiner heavy? Gotta love that gold skinned man.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

I watched "Skin of Evil" this afternoon, and I couldn't see what I was doing, because I kept tearing up during Tasha's goodbye.

I guess i need to watch that episode again. I never liked Tasha and was happy when she died. I thought she was a poorly written character with nowhere to go. Its been years since i watched the first season (as i really didnt like the first season AT ALL.) But since so many years have passed, i should give it another try.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

This is definitely one of the shining lights of TNG. Has anyone else noticed that most of the amazing episodes are Brent Spiner heavy? Gotta love that gold skinned man.

I agree with you that most of the amazing eps are Spiner heavy. In my opinion, he was the BEST thing on TNG. I love Spiner/Data!! But there are other great episodes that feature very little of Data. But yeah, Spiner is awesome.

 

[Sakrysta]

I watched "Skin of Evil" this afternoon, and I couldn't see what I was doing, because I kept tearing up during Tasha's goodbye.

I guess i need to watch that episode again. I never liked Tasha and was happy when she died. I thought she was a poorly written character with nowhere to go. Its been years since i watched the first season (as i really didnt like the first season AT ALL.) But since so many years have passed, i should give it another try.

Well, I never really got Tasha until much later in my fandom. I think she had just as much potential as any other of the characters had she had the chance to continue. Of course, we wouldn't have had the same Worf had Tasha stayed around, so it's a two-way street.

But I think the reason I cry over that scene is just I'm a sucker for scenes like that. Funerals, people saying goodbye, telling someone how much their friendship has meant ... yep, I'm a puddle on the floor for those moments.

And really, the first season is its own animal. It's almost a different show. Right now I'm watching DS9's first season, and I'm amazed by the difference between the two. In a lot of ways, TNG's first season was more daring - they took a lot more risks with weird plots and really unusual challenges. Sometimes those risks fell flat ("Lonely Among Us"), but some of them still give me chills ("We'll Always Have Paris"). TNG's first season has an atmosphere that is all its own and that virtually disappears from the rest of modern Trek. It's certainly not something I'm interested in watching all the time, but it is fun to revisit now and then.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

^ Interesting, you mentioned "We'll Always Have Paris"...i havent watched that episode in years, and honestly, only watched it once...i thought it was so god-awful! But that was many many years ago, and now, since you mention that one giving you chills I am going to have to pop that one in real soon, just to give it another chance!

 

[Sakrysta]

It's the weirdness of the time displacement. It doesn't make any sense, but it doesn't really TRY to make sense, which makes it entertaining to me - in a creepy way.

 

[Too Much Fun]

I watched "Skin of Evil" this afternoon, and I couldn't see what I was doing, because I kept tearing up during Tasha's goodbye.

I guess i need to watch that episode again. I never liked Tasha and was happy when she died. I thought she was a poorly written character with nowhere to go. Its been years since i watched the first season (as i really didnt like the first season AT ALL.) But since so many years have passed, i should give it another try.

Well I liked Tasha, but I didn't find the end of that episode moving at all. I don't think it really 'earned' any emotional reaction from me as a viewer since her death was so contrived and her funeral was so forced and maudlin. Tasha not being around that long robbed it of potential power as well, but as we can see with Lal, that's not the problem.

Lal, despite being in only one episode compared to Tasha's many managed to have a much more poignant and moving death because the circumstances around hers were so much more plausible, and more believable as a natural tragedy.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I watched "Skin of Evil" this afternoon, and I couldn't see what I was doing, because I kept tearing up during Tasha's goodbye.

I guess i need to watch that episode again. I never liked Tasha and was happy when she died. I thought she was a poorly written character with nowhere to go. Its been years since i watched the first season (as i really didnt like the first season AT ALL.) But since so many years have passed, i should give it another try.

Well I liked Tasha, but I didn't find the end of that episode moving at all. I don't think it really 'earned' any emotional reaction from me as a viewer since her death was so contrived and her funeral was so forced and maudlin. Tasha not being around that long robbed it of potential power as well, but as we can see with Lal, that's not the problem.

Lal, despite being in only one episode compared to Tasha's many managed to have a much more poignant and moving death because the circumstances around hers were so much more plausible, and more believable as a natural tragedy.

I totally agree. I just didn't care for Crosby as an actress, so I never got into tasha. Where as Lal's lone episode touches me each time I see it. It was well written, AND, is cited as many of the cast's favorite episode...

Rob

 

[Yeoman Randi]

^ So true. Isnt that amazing? We see her in ONE episode and yet this ep resonates with all that see it. Proof of the excellent writing, direction and acting from all those involved. AMAZING television!

 

[RobertScorpio]

^ So true. Isnt that amazing? We see her in ONE episode and yet this ep resonates with all that see it. Proof of the excellent writing, direction and acting from all those involved. AMAZING television!

Did the young lady who played lal do anything else of note?

Rob

 

[Yeoman Randi]

Rob, heres her credits:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0865177/

She has done quite a bit, but looks like nothing after 2005. Funny, she has a credit for Malcolm in the Middle (i'm a malcolm-addict) and yet, i can't remember her being in any episodes.