Well, you can have all the raw ingredients and it can ring false. I am waiting with baited breath for some explanation for why 7 of 9 doesn't act the least bit Borg anymore. Having what would be a huge chunk of character arc waved away would be a shame. That's my biggest problem with the trailer so far, visual stylings aside.
I preferred the Prime timeline.
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Well, you can have all the raw ingredients and it can ring false. I am waiting with baited breath for some explanation for why 7 of 9 doesn't act the least bit Borg anymore. Having what would be a huge chunk of character arc waved away would be a shame. That's my biggest problem with the trailer so far, visual stylings aside.
Just a shot in the dark here, but...another 18 years away from the Collective...?
Or maybe her arc continued in all those years while we weren't watching. Why would anyone expect a character we haven't seen in nearly two decades to remain exactly as we last saw them?
Because some folks DON'T want to move along and adjust with change.
Staying constantly in one's "Happy Space" seems to me to be the one things the last couple of generations absolutely live for.
What's that saying....
Change Is The One Constant In The Universe ... Get Use To It.
Staying constantly in one's "Happy Space" seems to me to be the one things the last couple of generations absolutely live for.
What's that saying....
Change Is The One Constant In The Universe ... Get Use To It.
I don't think I imagined all those older episodes and movies.
It is Prime-verse, and your impression is wrong.
Wrong thread; try here - it’s the thread for made-up nonsense.
Is someone saying they didn't happen?
I don’t even think you watched the series.
18 years with Chuckles, I'd expect her to have rejoined the Collective unless she assimilated him at some point. I doubt anyone would have noticed.
Her whole arc on Voyager was about becoming more human and less Borg so all the years back in the Federation was likely to continue that trend.
Guys... it's a conspiracy. Don't you watch Midnight's Edge? Kurtzman's still showing up at conventions months after being fired and nobody's noticed!
I love it how people think that fictional characters have to remain exactly the same when years even decades go by since the last time we saw them. It’s been eighteen years since we last saw Seven. Are you exactly the same as you were eighteen years ago?
I think people not looking forward to Picard because of "JJ Abrams!!! STD!!!" are using the Kelvin Films and DSC as handy scapegoats and nothing more.
These same people hated NEM and bashed VOY all the time, for years on end. Don't even try to pretend you didn't.
So, yeah, without the most recent productions, they'd be talking about how NEM ruined everything. And they'd be complaining about Seven being there at all. They don't care about how Seven was portrayed in VOY because they weren't fans of it. And they don't care about how she's changed in the past two decades, other than as a means to use it as something to bash PIC with.
These same people hated NEM and bashed VOY all the time, for years on end. Don't even try to pretend you didn't.
So, yeah, without the most recent productions, they'd be talking about how NEM ruined everything. And they'd be complaining about Seven being there at all. They don't care about how Seven was portrayed in VOY because they weren't fans of it. And they don't care about how she's changed in the past two decades, other than as a means to use it as something to bash PIC with.
Yeah, if you compare Seven’s personality at the start of S4 to nearly 4 years later in Endgame, I don’t see anything wrong the Seven we see in the trailer (approx 22 years after Endgame), seems perfect natural to me.
This is something I never understood. People change and go through challenges and difficulties. Expecting them to be identical as the last time they appeared on screen in unreasonable.
Strawman.
I didn't say 7 should stay the same. I think it's jarring to just thrust her back in the story changed and not address it somehow. You can't just hand-wave that much character arc away. It has to be addressed in some integral way.
Not only that, but one can make an argument that 7 should never fully transition to being completely human in her personality, similar to how Data lost his uniqueness when he got his emotion chip. I think 7 is more compelling as a character by integrating her Borgness rather than abandoning it completely, similar to the integration of logic/emotion that took place in Spock across the movies.
The concept of 7 as completely human is just rather dull. Just a regular person with a piece of plastic stuck to her eyebrow.
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I'm no fan of 7 or her being in the trailer, but you expect the trailer to address this?
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