"Enterprising Young Men" isn't a bad tune, but damn, it sure gets overplayed during Trek XI and STID. I was very glad Beyond reined it in with that tune.
I loved the Yorktown base and a few other things.
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Is that the name of the tune?
The one that plays before the opening credits I mean?
I remember artist David Egge did work on concepts similar to Yorktown
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Here in this magazine:
https://www.amazon.com/Terraforming...breeding-Biochemical/dp/B00L8AZRSQ?tag=vig-20
We saw the interior of a Dyson Megasphere.
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Here in this magazine:
https://www.amazon.com/Terraforming...breeding-Biochemical/dp/B00L8AZRSQ?tag=vig-20
We saw the interior of a Dyson Megasphere.
A hey........ Maybe that was something like the Yorktown that KIC spotted causing funny readings.
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We picked up the Blueray disk over the weekend, and I have been able to sit down and enjoy "Beyond" a few times. I actually am finding that I really like the movie! It's well done, the story is tight and energetic, and I feel connected with the characters.
What I really have been picking up on is the subtle, incidental music - very much reminiscent of the "Enterprise in danger!" background that Alexander Courage used in TOS. Cudos to Giacchino for riffing on those notes!
What I really have been picking up on is the subtle, incidental music - very much reminiscent of the "Enterprise in danger!" background that Alexander Courage used in TOS. Cudos to Giacchino for riffing on those notes!
I really liked the Yorktown base- it is a great demonstration of what an advanced civilization can build when they have perfect control over gravity and materials.
It could have just been a stacked saucer looking thing, but they wanted it to look good, not merely efficient.
It could have just been a stacked saucer looking thing, but they wanted it to look good, not merely efficient.
I know I already said this in another thread but I wonder if vertigo is a problem for people who visit Yorktown for the first time. I bet they have treatments ready to give first time visitors. I know I'd probably get dizzy real quick from looking up at those buildings hovering over my head. 
Well, in several episodes, they talked about the Dyson Sphere - a structure built around a star to harness 100% of the stars energy. I can only speculate that the Yorktown was based on that concept - a small nucleus radiating it's power outward. Considering that it has rather long taxi-ways for starships to traverse, for dry dock, etc., it would have to be enormous. I thought they mentioned it being the size of a planetoid (roughly the size of Uranus or Pluto),.
16 miles/25,7 kilometers diameter according to VFX supervisor Peter Chiang.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/07/new-details-on-star-trek-beyonds-visual-effects/
The possibility of such type of starbase in the Prime Universe is interesting because of its name. While most starbases are identified by their numbering, there are in the Prime Universe at least a Starbase called "Montgomery" and "Earhart" (and maybe "India" but this station was called a "star station" - which could be a class name of that type of starbase). So mayby those two starbases in the Prime Universe are of the same type as starbase Yorktown. As Yorktown is so big maybe constructing or at least planing startet before the timeline split in 2233.
Although it's cool to think about, I personally doubt Prime Trek has anything like Yorktown. Scotty's line in Beyond that the Franklin was primitive ship built and intended exclusively to operate in space (compared to the Enterprise, which was built on land, flies effortlessly in atmosphere etc), and that most captial starships in TNG-era Trek Prime are still built in space and not designed for landing or atmospheric flight, suggests to me that the Kelvin timeline is indeed more advanced.
I like to think that Trek Prime operates a Regula-1 type outpost on their side of the Necro Cloud.
...and that's not taking into account Simon Pegg's tweet indicating Altamid, and the entirely of Beyond, is in the Andromeda galaxy.
I like to think that Trek Prime operates a Regula-1 type outpost on their side of the Necro Cloud.
...and that's not taking into account Simon Pegg's tweet indicating Altamid, and the entirely of Beyond, is in the Andromeda galaxy.
That's just Scotty mouthing off, though: in all the spinoffs and universes, Starfleet starships have found it easy and comfortable to fly through atmospheres, even when seriously damaged, or with the crew totally incapacitated, say.
It might instead be argued that the Kelvin timeline is so much more primitive that atmospheric ops now impress our heroes while the Prime counterparts would just yawn. But even that doesn't work too well, because the two sets of heroes supposedly share the common past where NX-01 was fully atmospheric-capable (and built in space).
That the Franklin would be primitive in any manner is put in doubt by her doing just fine in atmospheres and gravity fields and underwater and going through walls and mountains and... Well, okay, perhaps her main guns were a bit on the ancient side, and the transporter was deserving of an upgrade.
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It might instead be argued that the Kelvin timeline is so much more primitive that atmospheric ops now impress our heroes while the Prime counterparts would just yawn. But even that doesn't work too well, because the two sets of heroes supposedly share the common past where NX-01 was fully atmospheric-capable (and built in space).
That the Franklin would be primitive in any manner is put in doubt by her doing just fine in atmospheres and gravity fields and underwater and going through walls and mountains and... Well, okay, perhaps her main guns were a bit on the ancient side, and the transporter was deserving of an upgrade.
Timo Saloniemi
The NX class was atmosphere capable but had limitations.
We never see the Franklin operate in an atmosphere. You could argue either way that the starship passages are pressured, depressurized, or a combination.
As for operating underwater, the Franklin makes one burst through a shallow lake before crashing into the ground.
None exceeding those of the nuE, at least not in "Storm Front".
Save for when she flies through one to get out of Altamid, you mean? The one bit of atmospheric operations that Scotty was (needlessly) worried about?
After breaking through solid rock and solid starbase door material and solid starships-underwater-utter-coolness-tube-wall material. What possible danger could flight through gaseous matter hold for a ship that excels in flying through solid matter?
Timo Saloniemi
They've done it when necessary, but it's never been a routine thing - check out the wobbly TOS-1701 in "Tomorrow is Yesterday". As per Beyond, it's explicit that starships built on the ground are more advanced than ones built in space. Pretend it means something else if you want, but it's there.
The one and only time the NX-01 flew into the atmosphere it was hardly routine - quite literally, all of time itself was at stake. Ditto the Franklin - Scotty says it's not built for it, but it manages it. The Kelvin Enterprise, o nthe other hand, was made on Earth, to lift off from Earth's gravity. We see it hovering effortlessly in atmosphere in Into Darkness.
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