"I Grok Spock"

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by EnriqueH, Feb 15, 2015.

  1. EnriqueH

    EnriqueH Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Can someone explain this phrase to me?

    Maybe one of the old timers can tell me?

    I know it was a phrase that goes back to the early Trek fandom days. I know there were bumper stickers with that phrase during the Roddenberry orchestrated heist on NBC HQ, with fans plastering them over cars.

    But where does that phrase originate? I've been a lifelong fan of the series, (over 35 years), and the phrase mystifies me a bit.
     
  2. Metryq

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    "Grok" is a Martian term for "deep understanding" from Robert Heinlein's novel STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND. The novel was so popular that the term entered common lexicon and can now be found in many dictionaries.
     
  3. Green Shirt

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    One of the earliest proofs that Trek fans were considered nerds. :eek:
     
  4. Smellincoffee

    Smellincoffee Commodore Commodore

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    Also, an early example of fandoms borrowing from one another. :lol:
     
  5. Metryq

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    Wasn't there a TAS episode titled "BEM"? There's an acronym today's sci-fi fans may not know.
     
  6. EnriqueH

    EnriqueH Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Oh! Interesting. See, I have the book but have not gotten around to reading it. Thanks for that.

    This sounds familiar. Can someone shed light?
     
  7. BK613

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    BEM = Bug-Eyed Monster, IIRC
     
  8. kirkfan

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    I believe it is a means to possibly save your life. If someone puts a gun to your head and says: "you have thirty seconds to convince me that you're a geek or I'll shoot you." saying "I grok Spock" could be your best bet.
     
  9. kirkfan

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    Not in the TAS episode though, for one thing, their BEM didn't have big eyes or bug eyes, as both are used.
     
  10. mythme

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    I believe BEM was written for the live series for a hopeful season 4. Ari wasn't specifically supposed to have bug-eyes, it was just a term thrown around whenever an alien was planned for a show. Same holds true for Doctor Who when the Daleks were planned. Producers didn't want "bug-eyed monsters" and Daleks are anything but.
     
  11. kirkfan

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    Correct me if I am wrong but the only Bug Eyed Monster we see on TNG is the one in Future Imperfect, and we only get to see him for like thirty seconds.