I finally watched Nemesis...

[Hober Mallow]

I saw it once on DVD and don't plan to ever watch it again.

I was fine with everything about the production of the movie, but that story was just stupid, even by TNG movie standards.

 

[JRS]

I think Nemesis would have been a better film, if they would have kept the character stuff in that they edited out (the DVDs deleted scenes)
And I still think Jonathan Frakes should have directed the film, rather than Stuart Baird(who did not know anything about Star Trek)

 

[Rett Mikhal]

So then Worf randomly has a purple space bazooka...

 

[Caligula]

Re: Nemesis

I used to hate Nemesis, but now I'm simply indifferent towards it... which isn't much of an improvement. I remember when I saw it theatrically in December of '02. I had never had a bad experience with a Trek film up to that point (no, not even with The Final Frontier or Generations), but I left the theater with a hollow feeling after seeing Nemesis.

To this day, I don't see why they couldn't have dumped the whole Shinzon thing entirely and resurrected Lore, instead of introducing the retarted prototype android B-4. You make Lore the "nemesis," and then you give him a chance for redemption, while still retaining the loss of Data (presumably in a far less contrived manner). Then maybe... just maybe... we might have had a more fitting and otherwise generally acceptable final curtain call for the TNG crew. What we got wasn't as bad as I originally assessed in 2002, but it's still not what I've come to expect from Star Trek, and that's why it remains the only film in the franchise which I do not own on DVD.

As Whill said in his earlier post...

So in my personal canon, Nemesis has been banished to an lame alternate universe and Insurrection was the final farewell for the TNG crew. In my mind, Nemesis did not happen, Data did not die, Picard accepted promotion to Admiral to eliminate the danger of further corruption in Starfleet Command, and Riker is finally Captain of the Enterprise E (but Riker and Troi are still together) in the timeline leading up to the 24th century mind-meld flashback in the 2009 film.

 

[Gaith]

Re: Nemesis

As Whill said in his earlier post...

So in my personal canon, Nemesis has been banished to an lame alternate universe and Insurrection was the final farewell for the TNG crew. In my mind, Nemesis did not happen, Data did not die, Picard accepted promotion to Admiral to eliminate the danger of further corruption in Starfleet Command, and Riker is finally Captain of the Enterprise E (but Riker and Troi are still together) in the timeline leading up to the 24th century mind-meld flashback in the 2009 film.

I also like this.

Then maybe... just maybe... we might have had a more fitting and otherwise generally acceptable final curtain call for the TNG crew.

The thing is, All Good Things... was the perfect curtain call; there could never have been anything to top it so long as Picard remained the focus, IMHO. The logical thing for TNG movies to do would therefore have been to go epic, but the Dominion War was DS9's baby, and the studio suits didn't want to finance big Trek movies anyway. (Maybe because they didn't want to go toe-to-toe with the SW PT?)

So instead, we got one-off stories with characters who'd already been there, done that. Thanks goodness for the end of the (live-action, at least) PT, the Berman era of fail and the founding of the JJ relaunch!

 

[JarodRussell]

Since I reject the idea that Admiral Janeway's selfish time travel in VOY: Endgame went unpunished, Nemesis is indeed set in the "wrong" timeline. For me at least.

 

[Captain Worf]

Nemesis had a lot of flaws, but overall I found it to be enjoyable in a general "spend a couple of hours with the TNG crew one last time" kinda way.

The movie got a very bad rap online, I believe, because its script was widely available for download more than a year before the movie opened. Critics had a lot of time to tear it apart, which they did (I believe AICN and/or Dark Horizons had script reviews that completely blasted it), and created a lot of negative buzz. In addition, IIRC it was made during the first or second season of Enterprise, at the height of the "Berman/Braga raped my childhood" hysteria among (many) Trek diehards so a lot of people were just waiting to tear into it regardless of its quality.

Yeah, that's pretty spot-on. I still remember many of the threads I read on here way back in '02. It was pretty hysterical.

My opinion of Nem is pretty close to the OP. It's an ok movie, probably near the middle of the Trek film rankings.