Hypothetical Question-What if Russell T. Davies was involved?

[Joel_Kirk]

Listening to the Season(or Series) 4 of the Doctor Who soundtrack got me wondering...

First it was the brilliant music by Murray Gold, and then the series itself which I think is beyond brilliant....(Even Trek hasn't gotten that good....yet). The series just built on its long history and, well....it's brilliant.

I gather that if Russell T. Davies was involved we would have gotten everything that Abrams put into the film: Reckless Kirk, Spock and Uhura, duty skirts/go-go boots, sexy crew and feel throughout the film....a stronger story...

We also might have a gay or bi-sexual character....[Note: I've noticed some of the fan films trying to put in a gay or bi-sexual character, and it almost seems like they were trying to make a statement; Davies would have made it as something that is normal, I think--for lack of a better term].

I think it would have incensed some fans, as it would have been too sexy: There are some who seem to be afraid of female sexuality and sex in general...i.e. 'They should wear pants! No skin should be shown! There is no sex in Trek!'

....And I think there are those who would claim that there would be an 'agenda' if Davies put a gay character in the mix....

Basically, I think Davies would have did what Abrams had done, but make it a few times better, because he is just that talented....

EDIT: I probably didn't mention it earlier in my post, but Russell T. Davies is the (or was) the producer/writer for the Doctor Who continuation that started around 2005.

 

[Clancy_s]

Maybe Davies would have been good few years ago, but IMO the last season of Dr Who and Torchwood he's been getting tired of positive and energetic and heading towards dark /angsty and to me dreary: keep him away from Star Trek!

 

[Geckothan]

Couldn't do any worse than Abrams.

 

[Kegg]

We also might have a gay or bi-sexual character....

We may still yet. Who's to say one of the main cast aren't bi? Abrams and co., that's who.

....And I think there are those who would claim that there would be an 'agenda' if Davies put a gay character in the mix....

And they'd be right.

So what?

Everybody's got agendas. You had better believe if I was given the reins to the Trek franchise I'd totally imbue it with my agendas, but fortunately for those of you who don't want to see El Greco: Star Trek, I'm not in power.

My problem with RTD would be... Dr. Who. Eh, I'd rather not have the guy behind the new Who working on Trek. Especially when Abrams is doing such a bang-up job.

 

[Classic Fan]

If RTD got involved with Trek.

Who knows. I doubt it, but he did bring Who back from the dead, so ill give him credit for that at least. Yes, hes a good writer but again, hes not Godly byany means, and hes not perfect. As with any writer. Even the great Steven Moffat has his sorry moments, but alas, well see that in the Spring when Eleven comes our way.

All in all, it could be a good calaboration, but it could grind Trek into the ground like with Who. Yeah, the events that are hapening to Ten towards his death are not included, but its the storys that surround those events that, well, suck sometimes.

 

[The Wormhole]

RTD would certainly be capable of re-introducing Trek to a new audience while still keeping the essentials in check. He'd have an authentic TOS feel to the movie, while at the same time making it relevant to today's audience.

However, as talented a writer as RTD is, he does have one major flaw: he tends to try to be too epic and over the top. Especially with his finales. If he had done Trek XI, it would probably consist of Nero leading a vast fleet of Naradas on a crusade to destroy the galaxy itself until the Enterprise swoops in and saves the day through a deus ex machina that instantly defeats Nero and his fleet of Naradas.

Although, it probably wouldn't be any worse than the movie we got anyway.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Thanks for the comments everyone....

Maybe Davies would have been good few years ago, but IMO the last season of Dr Who and Torchwood he's been getting tired of positive and energetic and heading towards dark /angsty and to me dreary: keep him away from Star Trek!

I've been out of the Who loop, so I only knew when he was positive and energetic...

We also might have a gay or bi-sexual character....

We may still yet. Who's to say one of the main cast aren't bi? Abrams and co., that's who.

....And I think there are those who would claim that there would be an 'agenda' if Davies put a gay character in the mix....

And they'd be right.

So what?

Everybody's got agendas. You had better believe if I was given the reins to the Trek franchise I'd totally imbue it with my agendas, but fortunately for those of you who don't want to see El Greco: Star Trek, I'm not in power.

My problem with RTD would be... Dr. Who. Eh, I'd rather not have the guy behind the new Who working on Trek. Especially when Abrams is doing such a bang-up job.

Nothing wrong with agendas...(as long as they're not hurtful, of course).

I have agendas in my own stories, and will have agendas in my own film projects....

If RTD got involved with Trek.

Who knows. I doubt it, but he did bring Who back from the dead, so ill give him credit for that at least. Yes, hes a good writer but again, hes not Godly byany means, and hes not perfect. As with any writer. Even the great Steven Moffat has his sorry moments, but alas, well see that in the Spring when Eleven comes our way.

All in all, it could be a good calaboration, but it could grind Trek into the ground like with Who. Yeah, the events that are hapening to Ten towards his death are not included, but its the storys that surround those events that, well, suck sometimes.

I really need to see his latest stuff....(RTD's work, that is).

I'm wondering how Stephen Moffat's style will differ with Doctor #11, myself...

RTD would certainly be capable of re-introducing Trek to a new audience while still keeping the essentials in check. He'd have an authentic TOS feel to the movie, while at the same time making it relevant to today's audience.

However, as talented a writer as RTD is, he does have one major flaw: he tends to try to be too epic and over the top. Especially with his finales. If he had done Trek XI, it would probably consist of Nero leading a vast fleet of Naradas on a crusade to destroy the galaxy itself until the Enterprise swoops in and saves the day through a deus ex machina that instantly defeats Nero and his fleet of Naradas.

Although, it probably wouldn't be any worse than the movie we got anyway.

 

[Bones2]

RTD makes Brannon Braga look like Orson Welles.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

RTD makes Brannon Braga look like Orson Welles.

Ouch!

With all the slash fanfic out there, Spock and Kirk are already gayer than Nathan Lane channeling Ethel Merman in a Busby Berkeley remake of The Wizard of Oz. Why gild the lily?

 

[shapeshifter]

Hypothetical Question-What if Russell T. Davies was involved?

I would not automatically think "boycotting" if he were. I like the NuWho, it's exciting.

 

[Piper]

It's a very hypothetical question given that RTD has on more than one occasion been somewhat scathing about Trek and all it stands for.

 

[Phily B]

Kirk would be gay, or bisexual. Film would be awful like Doctor Who.

 

[Capt.April]

Kirk would be gay, or bisexual. Film would be awful like Doctor Who.

I'm going to have to ask you to step outside sir.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

It's a very hypothetical question given that RTD has on more than one occasion been somewhat scathing about Trek and all it stands for.

On the contrary. RTD has said that he wanted to do a Star Trek crossover in the first season of Doctor Who. It would have gone in the "Boomtown" episode slot. And he said it would have been a production and logistical nightmare.

But could you imagine that? Eccleston and Bakula, on screen, together? Would Captain Jack have hit on both T'Pol and [insert male character of choice]?

 

[Count Zero]

But could you imagine that? Eccleston and Bakula, on screen, together? Would Captain Jack have hit on both T'Pol and [insert male character of choice]?

Maybe Captain Archer would have turned out to be bi, after all.

I've said it before on this board that I would have loved to see what Russell T Davies would do with Trek. I think it would have been great, but very weird. He'd need a science advisor, though. The science in Doctor Who has always been very shaky (funnily enough for a show that was originally created to teach children about science and history) and thus you can get away with a lot more than on Trek.
Besides, it would be worth it just for the ensuing nervous breakdown of half of the fan base alone.

 

[Piper]

It's a very hypothetical question given that RTD has on more than one occasion been somewhat scathing about Trek and all it stands for.

On the contrary. RTD has said that he wanted to do a Star Trek crossover in the first season of Doctor Who. It would have gone in the "Boomtown" episode slot. And he said it would have been a production and logistical nightmare.

But could you imagine that? Eccleston and Bakula, on screen, together? Would Captain Jack have hit on both T'Pol and [insert male character of choice]?

That's interesting, where did you hear that? He's said a couple of times in Doctor Who Magazine he dislikes immensely the militaristic side of Trek and doesn't go with it at all.

As far as I knew, Boomtown originally was going to be Paul Abbott's episode, the synopsis for which was:

The revelation that the Doctor had been manipulating Rose's life in order to turn her into the ideal companion.

When that fell through I thought Boomtown was the last minute replacement.

 

[Count Zero]

He talks about it here, though not in great detail.

 

[Kibbin]

IMO if RTD was helming the new trek it would have been turned up to eleven in terms of epic-ness (I don't think that's a word) at least one character would have been bi/gay (this may have been subtly put into the script or not depending on when this is written (I personally think he's gotten better at that as he's gone on)) and it would have been wrapped up in the final three minutes.

Plus we wouldn't have nods to old trek but a full blown fan wank alert as he brought in as much as he could squeeze into the run time.



This would have all been topped by the sequel.



(I don't hate RTD as much as it sounds, honnest)

 

[Piper]

He talks about it here, though not in great detail.

Ah well, it's not what he's said elsewhere. Sounds a bit pie in the sky to me, I very much doubt there would have been a meeting of minds there...

 

[Count Zero]

The practicality of it is definetely very much in doubt but when has that ever stopped RTD?

I think we would have gotten an awesome and fun film by him. If I remember correctly, he's now in the US, so maybe he'll get to be in charge of a Trek series, after all.