How would you make a good Wesley finale?

[JirinPanthosa]

I don't have a problem with Wes becoming a Traveler or becoming disaffected with Starfleet, but in the episode they did it pretty clumsily. Making him behave obnoxiously then pulling his abilities out of nowhere with some high minded idea to leave it all alone and let people possibly die.

They could have done the exact same thing, built up his Traveler abilities in the first half of the episode, had Wesley conflicted about leaving Starfleet and made his decision based on that instead of making it about some haughty principle about not protecting people in need.

 

[DonIago]

Or...and maybe the episode did do this and I've forgotten, in which case I apologize...they could have gone the route where Wesley's first painful lesson as a quasi-Traveler is that he can't interfere with every decision he disagrees with.

SG-1 would kind of go that route with Daniel Jackson, but I believe TNG would have pre-dated it?

 

[XCV330]

I'd have an episode where it turned out all of Wes' super aptitude that the Traveler admired so much was from a failed attempt by the Cytherians to do what they accomplished successfully with Barclay. Eventually it wore off and he became a normal, competent person. could have had a decent story about what it would feel like to lose genius after having it for an extended amount of time. (thinking of the Robery Silverberg novel Dying Inside where a secret telepath copes with losing his powers as he ages, alone).

 

[Orphalesion]

Honestly, I never minded Wesley, but Journey's End made me want to punch him in the face.

If they had built an ark around him becoming a Traveller through the seasons, alright, but him running off with the Traveller because exams make his little tummy upset is just such a douche move.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Honestly, I never minded Wesley, but Journey's End made me want to punch him in the face.

If they had built an ark around him becoming a Traveller through the seasons, alright, but him running off with the Traveller because exams make his little tummy upset is just such a douche move.

I would argue there was an arc. The Traveler was impressed that Wesley intuited that the warp equations relied on thought merging with space time.

They just didn’t execute it well.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Or...and maybe the episode did do this and I've forgotten, in which case I apologize...they could have gone the route where Wesley's first painful lesson as a quasi-Traveler is that he can't interfere with every decision he disagrees with.

SG-1 would kind of go that route with Daniel Jackson, but I believe TNG would have pre-dated it?

I’d say interfering with cold blooded murder is a little stronger a case than just “Disagreeing”. In Daniel’s case he was happy to follow the rules up to the point Anubis was about to destroy Abydos. I wouldn’t compare that to what happened in Journey’s End.

 

[Orphalesion]

I would argue there was an arc. The Traveler was impressed that Wesley intuited that the warp equations relied on thought merging with space time.

They just didn’t execute it well.

One appearance six season prior does not an arc make...

 

[DonIago]

One appearance six season prior does not an arc make...

Not to nitpick, but also "Remember Me".

 

[puzzledtea]

Owning up, when I first read the thread I was thinking, "Really? I didn't think Final Mission was that bad.", oops... Not too sure him finishing on that episode would be that great.

I think honestly his eventual evolution to a traveller was a good way for him to go. Journey's End however was awful. If there was some other episode his exit could have been in maybe that'd have been better. And him being less of an ass to everyone

 

[DonIago]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who feels that, mitigating circumstances aside, Wesley was an ass in this episode.

 

[Qonundrum]

Has anyone yet opined that they could have brought back the original trait of Ferengi eating people and actually prove it*? Given fandom's dislike of Wesley at large, I'd be more surprised if such fanfiction hadn't been attempted yet...

IMHO, Wesley isn't as bad as all that (but YMMV), and if what I said actually inspires someone to write such a thing... then I'll apologize in advance... Unless said to-be fanfic is really that good and it's not impossible for fanfic to be as good...


* And let Lore bring them to him or vice versa. That's the most interesting way to go about it...

 

[1001001]

I thought The First Duty was fine.

The Final Mission would also have been good.

Journey’s End was a shitty mess.

 

[DonIago]

My feelings for Wesley gradually improve as they get away from playing up the 'boy genius'/saving the ship aspects of his personality, probably peak at "The Game", decline a little bit with "The First Duty" (realistic but disappointing to see Wesley do something so horrible) and plummet sharply with "Journey's End".

 

[Arpy]

I thought “Final Mission” was a nice send-off as it was. Once they did “The Game” and “The First Duty,” I think they did need to address the character somehow toward the end, but “Journey’s End” was too much. The Traveller said that we have started to be interesting to his people, not that we hyper-leapt to be nearly like them.

If we’re talking an ideal world, maybe I’d have had adult Wesley in the future scenes of “All Good Things…,” the fully-realized man he was building toward in the series, and coming to Picard’s aid in some way.

 

[DonIago]

He did do a cameo in "Parallels", which was funny largely for the way you could fail to register it entirely if you weren't paying attention.

I wonder whether they tried to get Wheaton for AGT but couldn't, or couldn't figure out a way to justify having Wes make an appearance...he obviously couldn't show up in the past or present sequences.

 

[Takeru]

Journey's End without the traveler, Wesley leaving starfleet was a good ending in my opinion, I always felt that he only joined because his parents were in starfleet and he felt it was expected and he had to live up to the legacy of his father.

By Journey's End he could have been disillusioned with starfleet with the treatment of the colonists being the final straw, he tells Picard he can shove it and he becomes a civilian scientist.

 

[JesterFace]

Did Wesley character need a different sendoff than what we got in 'Final Mission'?
He went to Starfleet academy and that's it.

 

[Orphalesion]

Journey's End without the traveler, Wesley leaving starfleet was a good ending in my opinion, I always felt that he only joined because his parents were in starfleet and he felt it was expected and he had to live up to the legacy of his father.

By Journey's End he could have been disillusioned with starfleet with the treatment of the colonists being the final straw, he tells Picard he can shove it and he becomes a civilian scientist.

How about we also ditch the vision quest provided by the wise, majical nature peoplez(tm)?

 

[gakelly]

I think he should have just bombed out of Starfleet Academy and went to work on a freighter where he lived an unsatisfying life.

 

[Leviathan]

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