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How to make soccer more exciting?

Actually new question. How to make American Football more exciting?

I propose getting rid of the girly body armour...

And possibly giving players guns...


If you get rid of the girly body armour and cut the commercial breaks, it sort of becomes rugby, doesn't it? :p

Yes, but with fatalities!

American football is a code of rugby football, you know.

In any case, I want to see YOU stand there and get hit by a 300 pound man (a conditioned athlete, make no mistake) running at full speed, and tell me that it's "girly body armor".
 
I'm beginning to become more and more a supporter of video replays in football though. I'm against ad hoc legislation, but on the other hand I don't think refereeing mistakes have to just be accepted as "part of the game". It would also be a protection for the referees if they are supported by some kind of video systems.

I agree. Goals are scored so seldom in soccer, I can't see any significant slowdown if video replay was adopted for goal line calls. (OTOH, video replay should be kept far FAR away from baseball. Umpires make hundreds of judgment calls each game. Calling these into question would grind an already slow game into an interminable halt. Besides, if you eliminated bad officiating, then you also eliminate opportunities for the managers & umpires to get into heated screaming matches.;))

I was writing on my phone earlier -

I just wanted to pause and marvel at the fact that, 10-15 years ago, this statement would have made no sense at all.:lol: Oh, how things change...

Honestly, though, nothing could have been more exciting than the US-Algeria game and that was 1-0. The one thing I thought about was a bit unorthodox of a suggestion. The game was interesting because both teams needed to win, not tie, so they played for the win. That led to wide open soccer. I wonder what the World Cup would look like if they removed the point for ties. Basically, the only difference between a tie and a loss is that, if you tie, you prevent another team in the group from getting a point. There's still a strategic advantage to not losing, but there's more of an incentive to push ahead and take risks for the win. Overall, it might not help, but it could spice things up a bit.
That's really a criticism I don't understand. Someone does win in the end. A tie is often a much better result for one team than the other. The point is to be on top after 38 games (or however many your league has in a season) - what does it matter to win any individual game if you reach that goal in the end?
I have literally never even thought about it that way until someone mentioned that here on TrekBBS.

Maybe that's part of the overall difference between soccer & some of these other sports we've been talking about. The strategic focus is on the season, not the game at hand. Personally, while it's great to see a team on a championship run, I also want to be entertained and see a satisfying conclusion to the game at hand. Besides, sometimes an individual game can matter more than an entire season. That's how you get some of these great American college football rivalries like ASU vs. UofA or Michigan vs. Ohio State. Hell, they once did a poll amongst Michigan & Ohio St. fans who both said that they'd rather have losing seasons but still beat each other than win all of their other games but still lose to their hated rivals.

(I suppose this is the same reason why I can get really annoyed with TV shows like Heroes & Lost. They're so focused on developing the season long arc that they forget to make the individual episodes entertaining in their own right.)

In a way, this philosophy also extends to individual games. Soccer games seem to be a constantly moving mass with little to show for it. It's all building towards a goal that may or may not happen but with few overt signs to mark the progress. OTOH, baseball & American football are all about marking time with small victories. American football teams are trying to seize enemy territory a few yards at a time, frequently stopping to measure the accomplishment. Baseball marks time with pitch counts, balls vs. strikes, outs, players on base who haven't scored yet but are that much closer. To the untrained eye, it's impossible to tell who is winning in a soccer game until someone scores, and the scores are so low that it's often not an indicator of how close the game really was. Compare that to basketball, which I think in many ways has the most in common with soccer (at least compared to baseball or American football). In basketball, players score so frequently that that raw number is usually a pretty good indicator of how players are doing.
 
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How about you change some American football rules to make it more exciting for us Europeans?

I'm open to suggestions. (Personally, while the league itself was a total bust, I liked a lot of the rule changes that the XFL instituted and I wish the NFL would adopt some of them.)
 
To the untrained eye, it's impossible to tell who is winning in a soccer game until someone scores.

Not really. Until someone scores, no one is winning. The teams are equal, defences cancelling out attacks effectively. It's a draw until the breakthrough happens.

I like your comment as well about some teams in your sports who would rather win their game against their big rivals than have a winning season. It applies perfectly to Liverpool, who seem to consider the season a success so long as they beat Everton and Manchester United (hell, last year Liverpool only played well for about 3 games and they were nearly all against those two). And I'm not convinced I'd be too displeased if my team (Cardiff City) had a mediocre season but beat our massive rivals, Swansea City, during it.
 
The same holds true in American sports (there was a recent season where the Eagles missed the playoffs, but they won their last game against the Cowboys and I was relatively satisfied all things considered).
 
It applies to every team that has some significant history and tradition I think.

That might explain why Arsenal and Liverpool beating Spurs and Everton is run of the mill, but when the opposite occurs there's an open top bus parade and a commemorative DVD :lol:
 
Actually new question. How to make American Football more exciting?

I propose getting rid of the girly body armour...

And possibly giving players guns...


If you get rid of the girly body armour and cut the commercial breaks, it sort of becomes rugby, doesn't it? :p

Yes, but with fatalities!

American football is a code of rugby football, you know.

In any case, I want to see YOU stand there and get hit by a 300 pound man (a conditioned athlete, make no mistake) running at full speed, and tell me that it's "girly body armor".

I am a girl. In that case, it would just be "armour". ;)
 
Btw. I watched an actual American Football match yesterday and it was pretty exciting too, decided by a 52yd field goal in literally the last second of the game. To each his own. ;)
 
I recall watching a Scotland v Ireland 5 nations match back in the 70s, long before the new stadium was built at Murrayfield. I was down close to the pitch on the terraces when there was a lineout right in front of me, where I was staring straight into the face of a hot and sweaty Willie John McBride. I swear he was only half human. The other half was some kind of hairless grizzly bear.
 
It was sort of the European Cup of American Football, Berlin Adler vs Vienna Vikings, amateur teams, but they take it very seriously and there were 5000 people in the stadium. ;)

(I can't find an english language news article about it, sorry)
 
No worries. I didn't even know that there were still leagues of American football in Europe since the NFL Europe folded.

It's nice to know!
 
Sure, they aren't getting paid of course, which is a problem because it's kind of an expensive sport, but there are amateur leagues all over Europe.
 
I've just discovered that we have a league over here too. The name of teams are crazy :guffaw:
Les flash de La Courneuve, les Spartacus de Paris, les Argonautes d'Aix-En-Provence, les Mousquetaires du Plessis-Robinson, les Templiers d'Elencourt, les Black Panthers de Thonon :guffaw: :guffaw:
 
I had no idea. I was always under the impression that the stereotypical European view of American football was more or less the prevailing one.
 
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